I said it doesn't take a giant to drop someone via a kick in the face. I said McClane's durability is loony toons, cos surviving the explosions he has is just that.
So in your opinion, being knocked down from a hit (kick to the face or otherwise) is being "WTFpwned"?
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You've used the tactic many times before, so no one's surprised you are employing it yet again
You don't even realize the contradiction within your own post. If McClane has "loony toons durability", then he is not an average joe "somebody" who can get dropped via a kick from a far smaller opponent
Maybe. Maybe not. What I don't consider to be WTFpwned is weaksauce Van-Zan level punches that can't even keep a person of small body mass unconscious
Considering Jack survived just fine without him in Redemption, it would seem like you are making up baseless McBullshit
So doing that "no you!" yet again when someone points out some antics of yours.
1) Because he's shown loony toon survival durability 2) Because he's not invulnerable and can be knocked down. There is no contradiction, she knocked him down, she still died in the end due to said durability.
Funny you say that, cos Bauer surprise headbutted Nina and couldn't even knock her out. So if McClane is "weaksauce" for only KO'ing Ninja Chick for 25 seconds via a toss into shelving, what does that say Bauer's hits? Exactly.
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She died due to being an amateur who didn't shoot him in the head while he was down. An amateur mistake he made moments later Doesn't change that he got his ass kicked throughout the H2H match
Once again, who is this "Nina" person? We're talking about Redemption, and Bauer's neck-snapping strength that he doesn't need a staircase for
Shoot him without a gun? That would be an incredible feat. Yeah, no. Being knocked doesn't count as a loss. Being KO'd and at the mercy of your rival, that does.
Um, Nina would have existed in Redemption as a corpse who Bauer shot in the back and then in the end while she was defenseless. Likely due to lacking the power to end her with his hands, as seen with his previous weak headbutt.
You're totally transfixed on the consuming of feces, eh.
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McClane was KOed and at her mercy. He was just lucky she was a pathetic amateur
Oh, I see. When I used Bauer's TV feats, it's non canon and against the rules, but if it benefits your argument, then all of a sudden, it's perfectly fine.
Fine you can talk about Nina's corpse, but if you are going to talk about her corpse, you better also be prepared to talk about the 186 corpses Bauer also accumulated before Redemption as well.
Rubbish! She was in the land of nod for like 20 secs at least...Maybe half a minute, IIRC.... he could have killed her there and then, but for a bit of basic chivalry left in him. You cannot deny such screenfeatery..
Nope Im not at all.
What buffoonery! Are you seriously trying to bring in TV feats (EU) again..? McClane's kill count in his EU far exceed Bauers..!!! It has the advantage of many many games, and multimedia stuff that 24 never had. It is Bauer who is the unMcImpressive one.
Though you masochistically tend to his nutsack daily.
First off, she was down for 12 seconds, so once again, your massive McOverhyping has been exposed.
Second off, she was unconscious because an entire cabinet of computer hardware fell on her, not from the sheer force of McClane's toss, so again your McOverhyping is blatant.
Third of all, Robtard, you claim he is so impressive because he threw her a could of feet? Well guess what, at 0:49, she, a person of lesser body mass, strength, and combat experience than Bauer, grabs McClane and throws him around like a ragdoll. So again, contradictory overhyping exposed
Note how she disarms his ass While he is trained directly on her
Note how he says "Jesus!" as she is kicking his ass
And of course, note how McClane attempts to employ a computer monitor as a melee weapon at 1:52, and promptly gets disarmed and kicked the shit out of. Note that this is after his weaksauce punch and toss, so your claims of McClane being able to kill anyone with anything is, once again, massive McOverhyping.
Once again, McClane was forced to retaliate with a car because he is that weak in H2H (and melee )
Bauer, after being tortured, had the strength to break a man's neck with his legs (while being tied up), so compared to McClane's weaksauce punches and tosses that can't even keep a person of smaller body mass down, and the fact that he requires an entire staircase to break necks, it's quite clear than Bauer decimates McClane in H2H (and melee, since McClane is proven to get disarmed easily)
And proof of this? Because if we are going EU, Bauer has an entire canon book series in which he undoubtedly kills more people than McClane. And what is this multimedia McClane has that Bauer doesn't?
Bauer dominates McClane in every aspect of life 24/7
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Caused what to happen? His own ass-kicking? It's just McClane getting owned like the McPunk Bytch that he is (in comparison to Bauer). Only thing it proved wrong was my hope that maybe after seeing the evidence your Mcbias would go away.
No. His sense of mercy inadvertantly allowed her to childishly strop when her came around from her ass kicking and come and have another go. That was then that he.....corrected her.
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His sense of mercy? More hilarious McReaching to try to ignore the obvious fact that he got his ass handed to him. Once again, note his pathetic Van-Zan-level sissy slaps that can't even keep a person smaller than him down.
I'm sure she felt really "corrected" after disarming his pathetic melee attempt with the monitor and kicking the shit out of him.
Once again, he was so weak and outclassed by her that the only thing he could use to effectively counter her was a SUV , so again, compared to a combat veteran like Bauer, it's obvious McClane is a McPathetic Amateur
This guy's in the land of denial. "Only 12 seconds", that counts as a KO; you could easily kill or seriously damage someone who is unconscious for 12 seconds by stomping on their head.
Yes, McClane showed mercy by turning his back on an unconscious woman, that was the point of that scene. When she paid back his mercy with more uppity behavior, he taught her another more permanent lesson.
Bauer couldn't KO Nina for 1 second let alone 12 with his surprise headbutt.
Sure. And when she violated that code by taking the michael, she was forced to hide an SUV in her Va-JayJay... All conflicts, (after McClane dolling it out, taking it, Redolling before winning) end with McClane end in and amusing and violent way.
And that chick would have handed Bauer's ass back to him with a Tazer stuffed up it with the on switch jammed to the 'on' position.
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Oh yes you are
Again, it happened because of the shelf landing on her, not because of McClane's force. Again, stop with the McBiased Overhyping
Once again, considering there's not going to be a shelf of hardware to fall on Bauer, McClane will be left to rely on his weaksauce Van-Zan-level punches, which of course, means that he definitely isn't going to be able to knock Bauer out for even 3 seconds
"The point of the scene?" Stop with your ridiculous Mcbias. There was no "mercy" (especially considering his "I hate Kung Fu" battlecry). He was a pathetic amateur who got the ass-kicking he deserved for making such a retarded mistake
You mean when she kicked his ass again for being a retard. McSugarcoating it does nothing
He retaliated with a SUV, which has nothing to do with H2H, so again, you are McSugarcoating, and your point is moot and irrelevant and only further exposes your Mcbias
First off, Nina has the durability to stab herself in the neck and then gun down several people, so it's due to her own superhuman durability that she survived his headbutt. Second off, if you are going to talk about her headbutt, you should also talk about the dudes from McLennen Forrester, who Bauer knocked out with one headbutt,
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What part of that has to do with H2H? Why are you mentioning irrelevant scenes that have nothing to do with the subject at hand? Oh well. You tell random stories about Elmer Fudd and Yogi Bear meeting, so I guess this is to be expected
Bauer would have put up a far better fight, because unlike McChump, he's an actual experienced combatant
So yeah, again Bauer massacres McClane in H2H (and melee, since McClane is proven to be able to be disarmed easily), and really every other aspect of life.
He already had won the H2H fight with her being KO'd for 12+ seconds. Deal. Her dying via SUV was due to McClane's need to get back and save the kid asap. It was ingenious and a classic on-the-fly thinking of McClane's.
LoL, this guy. Nina stabbed herself in the neck with a a little syringe needle and then pretended to be seriously hurt. It was the amateurs at CTU that fell for it; had nothing to do with "superhuman durability". Just stop. Bauer's headbutt can't even KO a 115lbs woman. Deal.
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So he did all of that damage and could only put her down for 12 seconds (with the aid of a heavy cabinet with hardware)? Wow. McClane is now officially weaker than Denton Van Zan.
She did the same to him, so McUnimpressive
What? Leak out some of that McBias, because it's not just affecting your intellectual judgement, but your sensory functions as well, because it's clear you didn't watch the scene properly. Rewatch it. After he tackles her, he says "Still awake huh?" and does his oh-so-godly-Thor-Hammer-worthy hammerpunch. She's still clearly struggling against him after that and definitely not "limp and sleeping", and only is subdued because McClane is pulling her by her long hair, a tactic I'm pretty sure he's not going to be able to employ against Bauer. She only goes unconscious after hitting the heavy cabinet with hardware that falls on her. So again, massive oceans of McBiased Overhyping reign a horrific tsunami over obvious logic
He didn't win the H2H fight. The cabinet with software falling on her ended the first H2H fight. McClane's response to her H2H was "Jesus!"
GTFO with your continuous McBiased overhyping. He "won" his 12 second KO using tactics that he is going to be unable to use against Bauer in a pure H2H setting. McClane gobbles walrus cock in H2H, and is going to be massacred by Bauer. Deal
It was because he couldn't put her down in H2H because he's a weak punk b!tch who can only deliver sissy-slaps .
And now comes the illogical McStrawmanning. McClane never KOed a 115 lbs woman before, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Matter of fact the only person I ever recall him headbutting was Miller from DH2, and that didn't even put Miller down, and Bauer is far above Miller. So again, all you are doing is exposing your McBias even more.
Also, again, you are ignoring the McLennen-Forester personnel who Bauer did take down with a single headbutt, ( at 25:22 if you really want to include his TV feats, since you are bringing up Nina.
No matter which way you look at it, McClane dies in any confrontation with Bauer. Deal.
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You don't even realize the contradiction within your own post. If McClane has "loony toons durability", then he is not an average joe "somebody" who can get dropped via a kick from a far smaller opponent
Fine you can talk about Nina's corpse, but if you are going to talk about her corpse, you better also be prepared to talk about the 186 corpses Bauer also accumulated before Redemption as well.
