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Lestov16
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Look, Saddie, follow me on this. I'll hold your hand, we'll go through this nice and slow.

IF YOU ARE NOT POSTING HOW MCCLANE OUTCLASSES BAUER IN H2H, FIREARM PROFICIENCY, MELEE, OR COUNTERTERRORISM, ANYTHING YOU POST IS IRRELEVANT RETARDED TROLLING.

Are we good? Good smile


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth


You gonna cry/stamp your little feets some more now?




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Originally posted by Lestov16
Look, Saddie, follow me on this. I'll hold your hand, we'll go through this nice and slow.

IF YOU ARE NOT POSTING HOW MCCLANE OUTCLASSES BAUER IN H2H, FIREARM PROFICIENCY, MELEE, OR COUNTERTERRORISM, ANYTHING YOU POST IS IRRELEVANT RETARDED TROLLING.

Are we good? Good smile


So thats a "yes" then....
And oooh nice no limit fallacy, trolly...

If you are not addressing the evidence presented earlier on the thread that proves you to be wrong, and are dragging it out page after page with insults and rage tantrums, anything YOU post is irrelevant, dumb, babyish, ragey, hypocritical trolling.


You ignore literally everything that you dont want to see.
Its because you bias thread isn't working the way you wanted it to 'cause of facts that contradict your view and you cannot bear to face them..either that or its backfiring as a fail-o-troll thread (which of course was blatantly what this was designed for by you) cause you love getting slapped and attention in general...either way its so pitiful.


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Page 29: when the logic and facts were getting a bit inconvenient for Lesty:


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Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm done trying to argue this point with you. You obviously have the mental capacity of a 2-week premature toddler with Dementia since you can not seem to comprehend simple black-and-white logic and reasoning, and your validation is not required to show that Bauer wins when the objective evidence proves it beyond a doubt.

Do you know what you remind me of? You're like one of those stupid Fundamentalists who ignores evolution despite the fact that it's irrefutable.

You're obviously blind in your idiocy and I don't feel like wasting any more time poisoning my own brain cells by responding to your nonsensical garbage. If you want to live in your illogical fantasy world where facts don't matter, be my guest. Just note that it is the only location where your opinion actually bears any truth whatsoever.

I'm Outtie wink


I rightfully called BS on this attention seeking manipulation attempt:

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
His next post here cause of his inability to leave the trolling and insultery alone that will cause him to return after said promise/vow will on be one more embarrassment to add to his pile.

yes

and whaddyaknow... I was right again he returned, spouted off more insults and general trolly shit. Then 2 pages later:

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Originally posted by Lestov16
Indeed, you're right. This thread has gone on far enough. I'm done. You and Sadako think McClane wins, and anybody who isn't a retarded fool sees that Bauer wins, so whether or not your simplistic mind is able to comprehend the facts is no concern of mine, as your approval isn't needed to validate Bauer's win. The facts and proven feats show Bauer wins. Nothing else needs to be said.

You and Sadako will probably post some more nonsensical, idiotic, baseless, blatantly false crap about your McButt Buddy, but just know, in the real world, where the facts count, Bauer pwns McClane all day every day. Peace


2nd rage quit: Just a load of hotair, not addressing anything but his own frustration and blind rage and quitting when he knew the game was up. Then he came back for MORE, spouting off more abuse despite use of the word 'Peace' getting invoked...

Pity he never could stick to quitting as it would have had honour. But no...hes gotta vent and rage abuse at those who proved him wrong and cry and stamp his little feet in the hope that he can be seen as somehow hard done by and play for sympathy, all the time whilst coming off in reality like a spoilt little kid screaming at daddy cause he couldn't get his own way.

Robtard beautifully summed it up:

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Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, Lestov necromances his own thread, gets thoroughly spanked again and rage quits. I lol'd.


Yep.


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Lestov16
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laughing

Try again, McTrollboy. Yes, I was wrong at several points, but I corrected my mistakes. My ultimate argument for Bauer:

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Originally posted by Lestov16
H2H Bauer kills him effortlessly. Bauer massively outclasses him in fighting skills (snaps necks with ease, both with his hands and feet, and even snapped man's neck by running up all wall). McClane had to struggle and fall down a flight to stairs to accomplish the same. McClane struggles horribly in all of his H2H fights.

Also disagree about Damage soak. Bauer has a way higher pain tolerance than McClane. The Chinese tortured him for 20 months with the intent of getting info out of him:



Bauer didn't say a single wordout of sheer willpower and then proceeded to kill 50 people in the 24 hours period of his return, without any rest.

In another proof of Bauer's superior durability to McClane, in LFODH, McClane was shot in the torso and fell to the ground immediately. He was only able to shoot Gabriel because Gabriel, like a dumbass, decided to carry him.
Bauer received a gunshot to roughly the same area and two knife wounds to the abdomen, and was still able to tackle a Delta Force soldier to the ground while tied up and then walk away from the scene

And of course, the face that Bauer rips out people's throats with his teeth smile

Firearms Bauer has shown pinpoint precision in his shots, to where he can shoot the guns out of peoples hands, shoot the locks off doors (while wearing a heavy mask), and even shoot down assault helicopters. And not that pussy "shoot-the-wire" stuff either....Alright fine, that shot McClane made was impressive, but still, doesn't change the main point. Bauer and McClane are about equal in accuracy and given that Bauer is a former black ops soldier, I believe he has the edge


Melee Just look at LFoDH, when he tries to employ melee against Mai Lihn and gets near-instantly disarmed. McClane is only good in melee if his opponent is distracted. Bauer on the other hand has genuine melee feats of using everything in his vicinity from chains, to axes, to screwdrivers, to syringes, to backhoes, to his opponents tie, to even biting. Given how easily McClane got disarmed, I'm certain Bauer would maul him, and given that McClane doesn't get to retaliate with a vehicle after getting BFRed, I'm not seeing him win this

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contains none of my past misinformation, is irrefutable, and shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Bauer wins this. The only way you can prove different is if you dissect my quoted argument and show me Mcclane's feats that prove I'm wrong (and BTW, He has none).

Otherwise, you are just a reprehensible troll spouting disgusting and nonsensical lies and misleading people who actually want the truth. What a disgrace to debating tactics sad


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yep.


Yep. It's amazing how for 36 pages you have done nothing but troll like a retarded moron without a single credible argument to back up your claims. It's even more amazing how for 36 pages, you have not produced one shred of evidence that shows that McClane outclasses Bauer. Pauly Shore's character from Bio-Dome would probably have presented a better argument for McClane than you have laughing


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ALREADY DESTROYED ON PAGE 33. You must have ignored that again...[sarcasm]WHAT A SURPRISE!!!!!!!![/sarcasm]

1) Im not the one who is trolling.

2) I dont need to try anything.

3) Im not telling lies about you.
I proved with just a couple of posts out of so many I could have chosen that show that you just abuse, misrepresent, and outright lie all the time and continue to deny Mcclane's feats all the time (Something you just did AGAIN)

4) YOU are in no way allowed to talk about debate honour in debate tactics, as a constant denyer, misrepper, flamer, rage quitter, verbal abuser, thief of other's angles, starter of troll threads, starter of dupe troll threads, starter of bias threads (Which this clearly is right here, Mr."Federal agent at CTU", "Mr.Quit addressing the things that prove you wrong and proceed to dramamode instead"...

5) I use no tactics. Tactics have no place in fair debate.
Thats more YOUR bag, as we can see by implying that there is a war of tactricry when there actually isnt one. Just you resorting to them since you lost this thread AGES ago.

6) Your posts HAVE BEEN dissected point by point over and over:
Like page 33 dealt with the above post before...
You just ignore it and play for more time and attention in your troll game. Why feed the troll further having to reitterate over and over again all day everyday until you finally acknowledge it.
It really doesnt matter what such a willfully obtuse mind thinks. Reread the thread from day one. Its all in there.


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Originally posted by Lestov16
Yep. It's amazing how for 36 pages you have done nothing but troll like a retarded moron without a single credible argument to back up your claims. It's even more amazing how for 36 pages, you have not produced one shred of evidence that shows that McClane outclasses Bauer. Pauly Shore's character from Bio-Dome would probably have presented a better argument for McClane than you have laughing



Hmmmmmm was that another hotair flame post?
Think it WAS...[sarcasm]WOW Im stunned...who would have thought that that would have been your next move?!?!?! Wow [/sarcasm]


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hmmmmmm was that another hotair flame post?
Think it WAS


Actually, you thought wrong. That post was completely correct.

I have to go where the evidence tells me. You've been trolling reprehensibly for 36 pages without any credible evidence. Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that you are a reprehensible troll. If you need any proof, just look at your oh-so-brilliant "Tazer" argument laughing

Start posting credible evidence or concede, Trollio smile


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

Like page 33 dealt with the above post before


Um, no, McTrollboy. You didn't present a counter-argument. You trolled and went on an irrelevant and retarded tirade about how McClane is "a lone wolf", which doesn't mean shit when onscreen evidence shows that Bauer has better feats. smile

Stop trolling. Once again, it's pathetic


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Actually you thought wrong when your 'brain' told you to type that.
I was correct.

Ive already posted it with tonnes of credible evidence. Stop ignoring that or concede (more than you have already by rage quitting twice, at least). smile


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Originally posted by Lestov16
Um, no, McTrollboy. You didn't present a counter-argument. You trolled and went on an irrelevant and retarded tirade about how McClane is "a lone wolf", which doesn't mean shit when onscreen evidence shows that Bauer has better feats. smile

Stop trolling. Once again, it's pathetic

Firstly youre wrong.
secondly, you are a evidently a hypocrite. A total hypocrite. A hypocrite of the worst order and quality lacking any self awareness whatsoever.

Im at this point now convinced that you cannot see my posts and you are just abusing yourself in a mirror.


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This thread is still going? WTH?


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Mhm. Lotta McLovin. Get it?


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Actually you thought wrong when your 'brain' told you to type that.
I was correct.

Ive already posted it with tonnes of credible evidence. Stop ignoring that or concede (more than you have already by rage quitting twice, at least). smile


So you can't post any evidence backing McClane, because there isn't any? Good. Bauer wins until you prove otherwise smile

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Firstly youre wrong.
secondly, you are a evidently a hypocrite. A total hypocrite. A hypocrite of the worst order and quality lacking any self awareness whatsoever.

Im at this point now convinced that you cannot see my posts and you are just abusing yourself in a mirror.


So you have no evidence to back McClane? Good. Bauer wins until you prove otherwise. Also, get yourself a tissue laughing out loud


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Originally posted by dadudemon
This thread is still going? WTH?


Because those interested in this topic, either now or in the future, who read this thread looking for the answer, deserve to know the facts about the situation, rather than some overhyped nonsense.


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Not that they'll be getting that from Lesty...

Who seems to think that his own subjective opinion is a substitute for fact....like when the evidence of McClane's sharpshooting to miraculous levels with a gun that had virtually no business being able to make a shot like it did at that range happened at the end of DH3.
You merely 'countered' it with snorts of derision and expected us to take that as some kind of valid response. His sharp shooting tow men at totally different angles having drawn from a parcel tape wrap between his shoulderblades? Ignored too..along with the whole of Mcclane's feats in the rest of the DH series.

He even shoots choppers down with cars when he is out of bullets.
No Bauer feat can manage to equal that. Sure Bauer may have downed this chopper and that plane yadayadayada but not in inventive way like Mcclane can. Bauer is a bore, next to McClane.


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Originally posted by Lestov16
So you can't post any evidence backing McClane, because there isn't any? Good. Bauer wins until you prove otherwise smile



So you have no evidence to back McClane? Good. Bauer wins until you prove otherwise. Also, get yourself a tissue laughing out loud


Already have proved it. You just spouted off with abuse and trolling when you didnt like it.

Cant find any tissues. Its seems that you used them all up alternately crying and wanking yourself to death over Bauer.


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If it's so easy to prove, then prove it again. I was able to condense my entire argument for Bauer in a single post. Surely you can do the same (you'll have to strain your brain to the double-digit IQ levels, but if you believe you can achieve smile )

"abuse"

What are you, a trailerpark wife? Man the phuck up


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Originally posted by Lestov16
You trolled and went on an irrelevant and retarded tirade about how McClane is "a lone wolf", which doesn't mean shit when onscreen evidence shows that Bauer has better feats. smile



None of which:

A) Count in MVF
B) Were accomplished without CTU constantly saving his ass.


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Originally posted by Lestov16
If it's so easy to prove, then prove it again. I was able to condense my entire argument for Bauer in a single post. Surely you can do the same (you'll have to strain your brain to the double-digit IQ levels, but if you believe you can achieve smile )

"abuse and trolling"

What are you, a trailerpark wife? Man the phuck up


Why? Its already been proved.
Gravity has already been proved to exist...if you disagree, jump out of a window and see for yourself.
My IQ has me not going on like you have in these threads: It wins over yours which barely comes across as anything more than single digit.

Its YOU who needs to man up son, you sound like a little b!tch and have done since day one. You debate like one, cry like one, throw tantrums like one and rage quit like one....awww you shitting your pants again, Susan? Is that why you cant debate on topic anymore awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..... sad
Poooooor little Lesty Cissymary..not liking his constant braindead verbal abuse flaming being rightfully pointed out cause hes/shes too thick to debate about things in a civilised manly fashion.


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