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How could you tell how old you are? Because the sun it self can't set still, it has to keep making it's circle in order for it to be night and day, which is needed by the moon bring light at night time. It's impossible to blow up the moon without having some global effect on human life.


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What about the water around the world?


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It clearly is possible in the DBZ world


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How could you tell how old you are? Because the sun it self can't set still, it has to keep making it's circle in order for it to be night and day, which is needed by the moon bring light at night time. It's impossible to blow up the moon without having some global effect on human life.


The Moon acts as an orbital anchor, a year would still pass each time the Earth makes a compete orbit around the Sun.

Sunsets and sunrise happen regardless of the Moon.

The Moon doesn't emit light.

Correct, blowing up the Moon would impact life on Earth. Good thing cartoons don't have to deal with reality.


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How will people around the world, even in the DBZ universe survive against the sun? How will the global regions stay stable without the moon? Are you agree that DBZ characters, including a normal human being in the DBZ verse can survive without the sun because of it being clearly stated in the manga or because you don't won't the feat of piccolo and Roshi be non useless because it makes them inferior in debates?

Could you really agree with these feats from Piccolo and Roshi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV8JwiKYtLg

How can Piccolo see the moon or even align his blast with the moon? Look at the character face expression, he had doubt himself in destroying the moon. It's not possible is what the creator is trying to tell the audience.


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Not possible yet it was done. And by a very weak character. And why are you talking about the sun? What does the sun have to do with any of this? Did someone destroy the sun that i don't know about?


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Compare the two then. Which one is more believable? Piccolo who can't see the moons location, but was still able to blow up the moon or Piccolo use a blast to kill Goku and Raditz that didn't take apart a huge chunk of Earth?

Piccolo kills Goku and Raditz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muuwpkrb6zs

Wouldn't been more logical to use the same move he did to destroy the moon instead?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV8JwiKYtLg

Piccolo can't see the moon is what the creator is trying to tell you. Do you believe people could survive without the moon? Because it's just not possible. That's why it wasn't mention when using the dragon balls, the feat was ignored.


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Your reach is impressive. And what I mean by that is you're reaching for something that isn't there.

And what do you mean he can't see the moon? Everybody can see the moon at night. It's a big as hell pale orb floating in the sky. A blind man could see the moon. Another thing the moon attack tells us is that DBZ beams are pretty damn fast, as he hit the moon in a few seconds.

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Vegito should beat Thor.


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Your reach is impressive. And what I mean by that is you're reaching for something that isn't there.

And what do you mean he can't see the moon? Everybody can see the moon at night. It's a big as hell pale orb floating in the sky. A blind man could see the moon. Another thing the moon attack tells us is that DBZ beams are pretty damn fast, as he hit the moon in a few seconds.


It was a pointless feat that killed everyone in the manga because he come up with ideas on how they could survive knowing one characters could one shot the planet with a simple blasts, there would be no point in fighting basically. He ruined his own manga is what the creator is trying to say when he never mentioned not once of the moons revival. The feat was ignored because no could survive without the moon. You keep forgetting the most important things that's need by the moon like the it's gravitational pull on the Earth and the pulling of the seas toward the Moon not only affects seawater depths along the coasts, but the Earth's rotation is also slowed down. You just destroyed one the most important things to human life.

Yamcha vs. Saibamen (You see the moon in their fight)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRpLGys0C6w

The feat doesn't exist because the character's themselves wouldn't exists. There would be no fighting and all it would take is one simple ki blasts to rack a large portion of the Earth. And don't forget, Piccolo could never see that far of a distance, it's impossible in his character since he was never created with supersight and could never accurately align his blasts with moons coordinates. Can you make sense of Yamcha vs. Saibamen, Raditz vs. Piccolo and Goku compared to Piccolo destroying the moon? No. Because DBZ would have ended after the Piccolo feat.


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Seriously... stop.


We never knew how moon in DBZ universe works. Who knows that actually the planet and the population would be fine even without the moon and moon actually has different function. You're trying to depower DBZ with such logics while DBZ universe isn't normal to begin with. Living with Dinosaur, Cat which capable of transform to anything, etc etc etc, like Juggerman said. But one thing for sure : Moon in DBZ universe isn't a mere small shining object in the sky. It's like the real moon in real world. The fact also remain that Picollo destroyed moon with his ki blast. A feat you can't ignore in the first place.


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Piccolo moon destruction feat wins!


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The moon is certainly not like ours aside from being in the sky because Goku took the Rabbit Gang up there during Dragonball and it apparently had a breathable atmosphere.

And you're also wrong about the events that happened. Roshi blew it up in Dragonball to stop Goku from raging as an Oozaru. Then it got off paneled revived since it was seen again in Dragonball Z. But Goku mentioned that he lost his tail so it could be brought back; meaning they removed it so he wouldn't go ape once it got revived. Once it got blown up by Piccolo, it stayed blown up and since the world didn't experience megalithic natural disasters, that's further proof DB/DBZ moon isn't like ours.

And I watched that video, lol. Did you seriously try that hard to convince yourself that the big glowing ball in the sky during the daytime was the moon? That was obviously the sun as Yamcha disappeared as he got knocked up towards it.

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I agree with CIS off Thor would rape Vegito sans lube but the IT Hamehameha isn't out of the question. He tosses a few Ki blasts at Thor to gauge his ability and after seeing that the hammer absorbs them or what have you he thinks of a way to get around it. IT would be perfect



Very true i just don't think he would one shot Vegito with those kind of attacks. He could win with them sure but not with just one hit




I guess they don't have serious heat resistance? Just plain silly



True but he could have made sure it didn't pop the planet or atleast hurt his allies. Still i don't recall if it went past Broly at all.



When Vegeta did his famous "It's over 9,000!!!!" rant he crushed his scouter. Goku's PL wasn't stated after that so when he did the Kaio-ken times whatever you had to do the math yourself



React yes. But he is greatly outclassed going h2h unless he let's loose



That's exactly what i thought! "Hey Krillin come blast me like 6 more times so i can crush this fool"



Seems like it big grin



Abstracts have displayed greater durability than anything in Dbz though. That lightning is something special.

yeah it is. Broy was backhanding planets to dust but lava is to much.

Not in strength though. Not from what DBZ characters have displayed.

oh hey I found out where that reading came from. It was Bulma. She had Raditz' scouter and saw when Goku started powering up. But it broke when he hits 21000 so it could have gone further...


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Abstracts have displayed greater durability than anything in Dbz though. That lightning is something special.


Yes but as i stated earlier First Form Freiza is more than capable of a planet busting attack and that is far greater than alot of things that has put Thor on his ass. And the lightning is powerful i just don't think it'll instantly drop Vegito

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yeah it is. Broy was backhanding planets to dust but lava is to much.


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Not in strength though. Not from what DBZ characters have displayed.


Not in strength but Vegito's punches should hurt Thor to some degree

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oh hey I found out where that reading came from. It was Bulma. She had Raditz' scouter and saw when Goku started powering up. But it broke when he hits 21000 so it could have gone further...


That explains the confusion. Scouters are amazingly unreliable


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I don't think it was so much that the scanners were unreliable. They just weren't set to compensate for such high levels.

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They always broke! Atleast if they couldn't handles high levels they could have shut down or something. But they completely shattered! Never able to be used again. Talk about a manufacturing flaw!


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Yes but as i stated earlier First Form Freiza is more than capable of a planet busting attack and that is far greater than alot of things that has put Thor on his ass. And the lightning is powerful i just don't think it'll instantly drop Vegito



laughing I know!!!!!



Not in strength but Vegito's punches should hurt Thor to some degree



That explains the confusion. Scouters are amazingly unreliable


You forget a lot of things, is it on purpose or do you actually forget? Thor won't get hit unless Vegetto finds a way around his electrical magical current, this is if they fight h2h, which means Thor has the advantage in close combat. If they fight from a distance, Thor is still much faster than Vegetto in flight speed, which is still a part of combat, not just in close combat, so the fight still must go to Thor because can never be caught once broken apart. Do you think Vegetto could survive the tempatures of the sun? No. But Thor can.

The gravity in the sun plus it's tempatures far exceeds a ki blasts from Vegtto, which wasn't planet destroying. Are you implying that every single one of Vegetto's ki blasts are planet destroying, because that's a lie in itself since it's never been done or mentioned once in the manga or anime. That can't destroy the planet with a simple ki blasts, there would be no point in fighting and no way to differentiate the ki blasts themselves from each other, which aren't all planet destroying. Ever notice how hard it was to finish off Goku, knowing that they had the advantage of surviving in space, but they always resort to charging up attacks to take out the planet. Because a common ki blast wasn't enough.


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I don't think it was so much that the scanners were unreliable. They just weren't set to compensate for such high levels.


Powerlevels how no purpose in combat outside of DBZ, even in DBZ it was pointless against enemies without powerlevels. The Androids were a prime example, not once was it indicated that they could destroy the planet or that it was even needed to beat a DBZ character, which it wasn't.

Vegeta vs. 18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pYVSjKc6nw

Cell vs. 16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hatlpZ8j9L4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gmc...feature=related


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Electrical Magical Current? What version of Thor are you using? He gets hit just fine by regular people all the time. Juggernaut, Hulk, Wrecker, Sentry, Hercules, Kurse, The Destroyer, Graviton, Ymir, Surtur, random goons shooting at him. The list goes on. And stop trying to make Thor fight like you'll think he fights. He doesn't run from people. In fights people act like they usually act in comics, or movies or anime or manga or whatever, so Thor won't fly away and hope Vegeto doesn't catch up to him, which would be considered a loss anyway since Thor's running from the fight.

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