No, I started to lose interest because he didn't know shit about Thor plus saying Juggs or Hulk could solo the entire DBZ is something beyond imagination, LOL, those slowpokes. Besides, anything I will present here will be rejected like skills, 18K is planet buster, power levels, solar system busting, scream dimension buster etc. He might as well cancel the planet/moon/island/mountain/city busting for his benefit, LOL. He wants to cancel all those because it will beat the Typical Thor and Supes.
Just use the strongest version of Thor and Supes so I'll agree with you 100%.
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Last edited by nij-ayias on Jul 30th, 2012 at 07:44 PM
Thor's combat speed is nowhere near as fast as DBZ verse. They consistantly move at speeds no else can track in fights. Thor's fight are constantly and easily seen by eveyone with the exception of a few moments when he moves quicker than his opponent expects.
Im not saying he's not fast but his combat speed is terrible when compared to even the weaker characters of DBZ.
Plus i highly doubt Thor would one shot Vegito. DBZ characters take planet shattering shots all the time and are fine. Cell took a "Final Flash" from Super Vegeta which was capable of destroying Earth and healed almost instantly. Cell's durability<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Vegito's. Hell Frieza simply batted away a planet shattering blast from Vegeta while at 1% of his power! Frieza could utterly obliterate planets with minimal effort at much less than 1%. And he is a flea compared to Vegito.
And someone actually had the nerve to say Hulk or Juggernaut would solo DBZ! Clearly people have gone mad! I know Hulk has strength feats out the ass but he would easily be taken out by lower level DBZ people like Krillin. Hulk was killed when he was inpaled by a trident. A Destructo Disk would cut his f***ing head off!
Juggernaut would be more tricky but he could be easily BFR'd as could Hulk.
Thor is much more of a challenge than the other two due to his diverse powers but the result is the same. A "Solar Flare" followed by a planet destroying attack to his face/head spells a Thor KO.
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Last edited by juggerman on Jul 31st, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Thor's perception though and ability to track those faster than him shouldn't be over looked. A couple of combos from Vegito would make Thor see that he's outmatched in speed, so he brings down the lightning.
It's true that he's not as consistently fast as DBZ characters, but he's got other means of catching up to them. OMNI blast for the stun and MJolnir for the KO/Kill.
They've never taken Physical force like Mjolnir though and been fine. Cell didn't really take anything lol. Half his body was blown away. He regenerated pretty quick (After messing with Vegeta heh) but Vegito doesn't have that luxuary.
Thats kind of another exaggeration. Pretty sure Frieza wasn't at 1% of his power. It was more like 25%. Since Goku was about tied with him in that form and when he hit 50% he trashed Goku. If he was 50 times stronger he'd have killed him instantly.
Lol I'd like to see Krillin use Kienzan on Hulk :P I wonder if it'd cut him in half...
Solar Flare isn't hurting Thor's eyes. He's been in the core of the sun. Chances are he'd fling Mjolnir at whoever did the Solar flare and take the out right there.
I agree he can track fast beings but he does not fight at the speeds of DBZ minus the times he dodges quickly
With IT Vegito can dodge the OMNI Blast. And Thor would need a moment to do an attack like that or "call down the lightning" which Vegito doesn't have to give him.
My point here tho was that Cell could get blasted by an attack that would have completely destroyed the planet and survive. Yeah he regenerated but Vegito wouldn't need to since that attack would have had no effect on him
Not an exaggeration. Frieza told Goku that he was using 1% of his power and that was when Goku was holding his own. Once Frieza increased his power to 50% Goku was completely outclassed until he went Super. So yeah when he deflected Vegeta's attack he was at 1% maybe even less. And he was still a casual planet obliterator in his 1st form which is <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< than his 1% Final Form
I think it would since Hulk gets cut all the time. His durability isn't that great unless he's Green Scar. Even Wolverine had trouble cutting Hulk at that level
Good point about the sun. I highly doubt he would hit Vegito with the hammer throw but maybe. But my point about the IT Hamehameha is still valid. If he casually tosses Ki blasts at Thor or maybe a Hamehameha and Mjolnir blocks/absorbs it and Vegito sets up for another Thor would not expect Vegito to appear behind him at the last second which means Thor would get the full blast to the back of his head. Instant KO if not worse
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Last edited by juggerman on Aug 1st, 2012 at 12:44 PM
There's no way to get past the eletrical current. He also fuses Mjolnir together with lightning. You never proved how Vegeto could stop Thor in this state.
Speed isn't in favor of Vegeto, it's Thor. Tho'r faster in moving away from attacks, Vegeto isn't because he can't track Thor's movements to begin with.
He can Heal himself if he is KO'd. One full power Hamehameha would do that.
Where does it say his "electrical currents" are impenatrable? Besides while Thor is doing all this "summoning" and "fusing" is Vegito just supposed to be sitting there with his thumb in his butt?
What is Thor's "crackling" body doing to Vegito exactly?
They don't need to detect him since Thor doesn't fight but zipping around. He fights head on. They would never lose sight of his even if the couldn't detect him.
Speed blitz would work since Thor needs a moment to do all these things and Vegito won't give him that time.
Thor also won't be running away. He fights straight up. And his combat speed is trash compared to DBZ. Vegito doesn't move as slowly as most of the people Thor fights.
Combat Speed isn't in the favor of Thor. Unless he runs away and plans some sort of cowardly attack he loses
Your denying your own reasoning in favor of Vegeto winning. If you look and read the scans, Thor's attacks are instant, clearly you're ignoring Thor's feats in favor Vegeto. You're limiting Thor in favor of Vegeto to win, which means he then stand a chance in winning in the first place mental in your mind. A kamehameha wave doesn't have as much power as the sun or a star.
Thor has resisted extreme ranges of heat throughout his career. Thor doesn't even register a reaction when immersed in lava. Kamehameha doesn't have the tempatures of lava.
Cosmic fire-bolts from the Herald, Firelord, have a similarly negligible effect. He's a planet destroyer, even though the planet itself isn't as durable as Thor, because the planet itself has a core. The can't keep itself together from a large blast.
Im ignoring nothing. In comics there is usually long speeches before/during an attack/move. Meaning he needed some time to do said move. Vegito's combat speed mean Thor really has no opportunity to do those things unless Vegito allows it or Thor runs away to the sun or something to chare up an attack.
Hulk's punch doesn't have a puch that is the temp of lava either yet that seems to work pretty well. And Juggernaut's punches. And anyone's punches really. Hamehameha is not a "fireball". It is a concussive attack. Temp has nothing to do with it.
And Btw Goku survived lava in the Frieza saga so yeah i think Vegito can no problem not that it really matters. But seriously did you even watch/read DBZ? Your temp arguments are silly
I know Thor can take heat related attacks but again ki blasts are not just flying balls of heat. A concussive attack that can completely destroy a planet will more than KO Thor seeing as how he gets hurt/Ko'd by far less than that daily
Thor won't just take the fight to the sun! That is not how he fights. And even if it was him leaving the planet and running to the sun shows his inferiority and costs him the fight. That's called self BFR. In otherwords a forefit. Vegito wins on account of Thor's cowardly retreat
Vegeto loses because you keep limiting Thor to fight at Vegeto level, which means you have no interest in in keeping the fight fair. Thor wins overall clearly and that you're just draging the thread on without even showing proof with scans or any obvious facts.
Right because all you are saying is "oh your limiting Thor so Thor wins"
No1 limited Thor. Thor fights a certain way just like everyone does. Thor's attacks aren't instant like you claim and he doesn't just run to the sun for an advantage. Even if he did it is a loss due to self BFR.
Thor has been KO'd by far less than what even First Form Frieza could do. For every durability feat Thor has he has feats of him getting his ass handed to him by bricks with punches less than that of Earth shaking
An attack that can totally destroy a planet KO's Thor if not worse and there is no arguing that so stop trying. Vegito can pull off these powerful attacks easily in no time at all.
You keep making false claims like "Thor can survive lava so a ki blast will have no effect" clearly shows you have no idea what you are talking about. Stop debating aginst DBZ characters if you know nothing about them.
He's fought at microsecond levels before. and moved faster than eyes can see also. But he doesn't need to since he can beat him with lightning before ever having to engage in melee.
Lol? It's not like DBZ characters are know from stopping their opponents attacks prematurely. I guarantee you with cis on Vegito stands there and smiles at Thor.
It's true that DBZ characters have awesome energy durability, but heat, physical force, etc not so much. Take Broly. He was badly burned by lava and died in the sun. Thor can easily survive in the sun and is Marvels king for energy durability of the heroes.
Then it's a lie. Because a 50X stronger Frieza would have killed goku with one hit. And he didn't. I doubt that happened though unless you have a scan that says otherwise.
Instant transmission is a cool ability and if Vegito does that trick that goku did when he fought cell and appears infront of Thor for the attack right before letting it loose, yeah Thor would get pretty hard. But Thors no slouch in durability and I'm confident he can take it.
The biggest thing thats bothered me as an inconsistency in DBZ though, is that 18,000 is supposedly planet busting power. Yet guys like Gotenks firede off attacks at the Earth which I assume are stronger than 18,000 and it didn't really do anything....
Love the show and the characters (especially Broly) but hate the inconsistency.
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