Why is this a thing? I thought we established that Vegeta would solo the Naruto-Verse, considering they can't blow up a ****ing planet with their itsy bitsy tiny tailed-beast bombs, or their Susanoo's. :/ This is literally a spite thread.
Forgive me, but these sudden claims of relativity come as news to me, and given that it's directly beneath lightspeed, I find it practically impossible to buy.
Outside of those who thought Naruto could planet bust, I've never crossed it.
Inconsistency and repeated calc stacking leading to idiotic numbers > no calcs and no idiotic numbers. Gotcha.
And to be honest, if you take the roots as being 63 km because of that first scan with the barrier, then it is "massively inconsistent" with the rest of the scans which show the Tree and its roots to be far smaller than 1000+km and 63km respectively.
CoAT was simply an example of his mastery over Yin-Yang Release, which is part of the ability that let Juubi Obito nullify ninjutsu (something Hagoromo will also have). That is a significant advantage that Sasuke does not have seeing as Sasuke cannot use Yin-Yang Release.
The level of energy required to 'Moon bust' is between 80-15000 times more than what's required to 'continent bust'.
Then there's the fact that Sasuke never actually demonstrates either level of raw destructive energy, not with Chibaku Tensei or Perfect Susanoo. Maybe a case can be made for Indra's Arrow, but we only saw the effect after Naruto's attacks had mixed in.
Here's what you're saying: 100,100 is above 100,000 and closer to 1,000,000 than 100,000 is.
But guess what, 100,100 is closer to 100,000 than it is to 1,000,000.
Yes, Sasuke's merging of the Bijuu chakra was at the same level of Hagoromo's separation of the Juubi's chakra. How exactly that translates into Sasuke is <= Hagoromo in terms of overall power, I'll never know.
Is Hagoromo really Moon+? From what we know, his most destructive ability creates a Moon, and we don't know if said ability can be amped in any way by the Juubi's chakra and/or his vitality. It doesn't seem to be the case if we look at Naruto's and Sasuke's usage of the ability, since they created a Moon as large as the one Hagoromo created.
Despite Sasuke being weaker than Hagoromo, he's still Moon to Small Planet level? C'mon.
Even if you ignore the fact that DC isn't Sasuke's forte or the way he usually gets his major hits in, he's still never shown that level of destructive power.
Yeah, and we saw that those two techniques were stronger after he got the EMS/Rinnegan. Did we see Amaterasu itself get boosted when Sasuke used it without Naruto's involvement? No we did not.
And I honestly don't care about how Sasuke fares against any Goku. A Naruto character versus a DB character is almost as stale as Superman vs. Goku. Dunno why you're wasting your time with this.
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When he was the size of a planet, and flew towards Chakravartin.
And if Asura wasn't strong enough to turn her into giblets her with a punch, which he is.
Cool. Then you're looking at this from a limited perspective.
Re-read my post. I was talking about Infinite Tsukuyomi.
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As said, even using the smallest sizes taken we'd still get Ma1k, which is fast. Make it smaller and it'd still give the speed advantage here.
Yes but it does not grant raw power like sage mode or beasts chakra does, which is the point with the power difference.
But is the difference of what Hags has over Madara going to be on the high end of that difference? He has the beasts chakra, a rinnegan and sage body, only missing Hags own chakra instead replaced with his own.
In the general powerscaling we use, does he have to show this? If he shares the same ability and is on the 'same' level of power, it would be like any other powerscaling.
As above, the only difference force wise between Madara and Hags is Hags' own chakra. So its his own power that creates this gap.
The only difference between Madara and Sasuke is that Madara has sage mode where Sasuke has half of Hags' power.
Sasuke's placement would be half way between Madara and Hags, minus the amp that sage mode would give.
No but its not some drastic assumption that the upgrade that has amped his physical stats and shown attacks might just do the same to his other techs.
Lol only because of new developments.. and how Naruto kept juicing up in the last 50 chapters. I find it interesting that the series, which has been at the lolcurbstompviaRoshi level nearly for its whole run can now take down a notable level of Goku. Even if its only DB, not Z.
Naruto would only need to be Island/Ma90 or Planet/Ma270 to be on par. The latter being above them, which is where hax comes in. Honestly I'm only interested in how peak Sasuke's hax would work on a Saiyan Saga Goku..
..until you came up to argue some ****ing feats
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It's ridiculous. Pretty much all of his/her size/distance calcs are. Don't even get me started on those country size calcs or the 1 mile+ tall Perfect Susanoo.
Massively Hypersonic at best, IMO.
Nope, I don't believe Sasuke is halfway between those two, and apparently, Kishimoto himself did not believe Naruto and Sasuke together could take out Peak Juubi Madara.
Nope. There are two craters. The one created by Gyuuki & Kurama (although, the Juubi used a bunch of attacks that might have caused it to widen) and is underneath the Tree.
No idea what caused that larger crater, but maybe it was the Juubi Tree's expansion.
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It seems pretty unclear in the manga, but in the anime it seems very much like the larger crater was from the Biju bomb used to try and destroy the Mazou, and the smaller one was from something else--Perhaps the Juubi's point blank Biju bomb?
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