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How does Broly fare against Cell?
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Broly dominates Cell twice 7 43.75%
Broly beats Cell once then stalemates 3 18.75%
Broly beats Cell once then loses 1 6.25%
Broly stalemates Cell 1st time around 0 0%
Broly gets pounded to dust by Cell the 1st time 5 31.25%
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Cell vs Broly
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BloodRain
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How many signatures will it take to get them to make a Piccolo movie?


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What would it even be about? Don't get me wrong Piccolo is the man but they've butchered his character so much his own movie would probably be shit.....

F*** it i'll still sign


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For all I care it could be about Piccolo's daily life, waking up and going about his daily routine at home while being left out of the action that only Super Saiyans can take part in.. and Id still watch it to support the damn guy.


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I think he should have gotten a power up in the Buu Saga. Maybe to put him on par with Fat Buu only to get outclassed by Super Buu or to be on par with Super Buu but to get smacked up by Super Buu w/ Gotenks or something like that.

Of course he couldn't out shine their golden boy Goku but he should have never been left in the dust like that


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I'm not sure if being left behind or how useless they were made out to be was worse. Tien ends with a failed suicidal attack, Krillin's there to press a detonation, and Piccolo gets a final hurrah against the weakest Cell to end up as den mother to the kids :/

They should have at least been as strong as adult Gohan. C'mon, they couldn't catch up to a guy that was afk for seven years?


(Going rogue, heading to new Namek and finding a way to absorb every single Namek in a huge genocidal power up is still an option.)


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(Going rogue, heading to new Namek and finding a way to absorb every single Namek in a huge genocidal power up is still an option.)


laughing This is exactly what i was thinking! laughing

I say he goes to hell and fuses with his original Evil King Piccolo self. Then, after becoming ridiculously powerful, he decides to become the most powerful being in existance by absorbing all other Namekians (including the "Super Nameks" like Slug).


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If they gave us that instead of GT...


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Yeah and uber evil Piccolo would have made a much better story than GT. The enemy turned friend turned enemy again. Not to be confused with Vegeta now seeing as he was just a footnote in the Buu Saga.

How many episodes was Super 17 in. 4?


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You mean a better plot than turning into a kid to travel the cosmos with a lame Trunks and the Scrappy Doo of DB? Oh, and Vegeta's being bumped down to distraction or fusion ingredient. Major disgrace.

Probably. His bit was so small that I only knew 17 was in GT from reading about it here, 7 years after watching every episode twice on TV.


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Hey i just realised i missed your post. My bad.

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Coolers is more transformation, and Im still only seeing Frieza going from suppressed power to his true 100% self.

And that would still only be two characters (Notably only one seeing as Ginyu barely increased) that can do so from all of the characters and species in DB, besides the ones we know who have trained to do so. Its stated to be a rare thing, so if Dabura hasn't shown it there's no reason to assume he can.



Which is a level of ki control. That's all im really saying here. Ive said it's not one the level of the Z Fighters but he can alter his power output and "charge up" if need be. Plus the Z Fighters have a max too and they can only power up so much until they reach it just like Frieza. Or Vegeta would have just kept powering up until he was above.... well just about anyone who whooped his ass (which is basically ever single villian)

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Thats a single moment charge. Does does it for a single punch, attack on Goku and that blast of his. Its the same as Vegeta charging his Ggun, but not the same as a constant ki charge.


No it is before he actually starts fighting the Z Fighters. He just starts charging as he is getting ready to fight. There are probably other times he charged as well but the 1st time wasn't for an attack iirc

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Unless the only powering up is shown (maybe) by the very top tiers and anything they do is only charging for a single moment, like Nappa does, or is really minute (Could be the amount they increase is the shocking part.).


Now that you mention it i think the amount is the shocking part. They were around Raditz level yet at times they could hurt Nappa (which im guessing Raditz could never do)

I guess their short bursts were very impressive

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Toying just means toying. Frieza was using his full strength at the time to toy with whoever he was fighting, as did Raditz, Racoom, SS2Gohan and iirc Buu. Wait, how do you know Broly was only trying to pull after it was too late?


I didn't mean he definitly was going to pull harder but he was pulling and laughing which shows he wasn't trying too hard and then Gohan started pulling away and before it showed Broly atleast try to regain control Gohan kicked him. We dont know that Broly couldn't have stopped Gohan had he tried harder but we do know he didn't seem to be trying very hard at 1st

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Nothing yet shows that Dabura can become stronger than Cell, until then Cell and Broly are in the same ballpark.
Other than Goku's explicit statement that he is, in fact, stronger?


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Like I said, Broly /can/ stomp Gohan easily. But we can't deny that the moment he was overpowered and the fact that he was beaten by Goku and a weakened Gohan (not including Goten and a passing out Trunks as their strength isnt worth mentioning, at all) says that he's not some massive untouchable league above them.


We have to include Trunks and Goten because Gohan couldn't do it himself. He was overwhelmed the entire fight and only got the win due to the help he recieved from his fam and Trunks. Had Trunks not blocked Broly Gohan and Goten alone could not have overpowered him. Goku probably could have but it was very clear Gohan was out of his league the entire fight. Even Goku at SSJ1 wasn't putting Gohan over the top and he was probably more powerful than SSJ2 Gohan was at this point

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Anyhow. If Dabura is as strong as Cell, then Broly is on Cell's level if slightly above. If Dabura's weaker or stronger than Cell, than so too is Broly.


Well not really since Dabura was not as impressive against Gohan as Broly was. If dabura was slightly below Cell Broly could still be above Cell since He showed he was much higher above Gohan than Dabura showed

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Nothing yet shows that Dabura can become stronger than Cell, until then Cell and Broly are in the same ballpark


I agree they are comparable but by Goku's remakes it seems Dabura edges Cell out slightly and Broly's showing against Gohan was far more impressive than Dabura's

BTW i had a much better response typed up at first but deleted it by accident. Hopefully this one will suffice since i forgot what i said originally sad


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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Why again is Broly made out to be some unstoppable wave of death and destruction no matter who he's pitted up against?


You know how Hulks concept of being an unstoppable kid having a temper tantrum and smashing everything and everyone around him is a breeding ground for fanboys?

Brolly is the DBZ Hulk. wink

*Likes both Brolly and Hulk ^_^; *

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Also has nothing to do with the Earth. Ah the whole Sun heat thing is stupid. On one hand being on the Sun kills Cooler, on the other we have Frieza surviving the heat and force (if barely) of an exploding planet.

Its a sad day when fire kills DB characters.


MAN you have to realize a star is not comparable to a planet busting energy beam, the reactions that occur on the surface is akin to nuclear explosions CONSTANTLY...oh and by the way Broly was only killed due to PIS.

Even when he was killed he made it thru the CORE of the SUN, then almost out the other side...only green smoke came out the back.

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Don't know why people are using Gohan as a reference on who is more powerful between Broly and Cell. Adult Gohan during the time he fought Broly wasn't as powerful as his kid Super Saiyan two form. Not even close. Cell>Broly.


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Don't know why people are using Gohan as a reference on who is more powerful between Broly and Cell. Adult Gohan during the time he fought Broly wasn't as powerful as his kid Super Saiyan two form. Not even close. Cell>Broly.


Gohan was also at around "half power" when he completely destroyed Super Cell.

Also might i remind you that the same level Goku fought them both. He held his own against Cell rather nicely while Broly completely wiped the floor with his face until plot kicked in.


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Gohan was also at around "half power" when he completely destroyed Super Cell.

Also might i remind you that the same level Goku fought them both. He held his own against Cell rather nicely while Broly completely wiped the floor with his face until plot kicked in.


Gohan had help when he beat Cell...he didn't do that by himself.

The same Goku did not fight them and let's not forget, Cell wasn't at full power until he faced Gohan.


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Gohan had help when he beat Cell...he didn't do that by himself.

The same Goku did not fight them and let's not forget, Cell wasn't at full power until he faced Gohan.


Gohan sh!t stomped Cell. Then killed a suped up Cell at half power. Cell was distracted by a love tap from Vegeta which really did nothing to him.

Goku was uber stomped by Broly when he had help in seconds. Then Broly's power grew alot and he stomped them all again with even more help. So Broly (before his power boost) ran thru a Goku (that was working a holding back Cell) AND Goku's pals. Seems like they are at the very least comparable. I'd go as far to say that Broly murders pre resurrection Cell. Super Cell tho may be a different story


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Well yeah just look at how Broly did against Gohan who stalemated a being compared to perfect cell. ( I doubt Tori did that by accident) Then look how he did against Broly who no sold pretty much everything Gohan hit him with.


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