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carver9
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Zod's heat vision went through Superman...

Zod>Prime. He actually did something Prime never did, and that was break Superman jaw with a single hit.

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Zod's heat vision went through Superman...

In all fairness, Prime was very, very weak when his HV pierced Superman-- which says a lot, imo.

Either way, I recently saw an AvX cover, on which Cap's shield can be seen soaking a blast from PF Cyclops. If there's any truth to that in the issue itself, then Prime's HV might not be effective. But to be fair(again), Prime's HV has also busted through GL auto-shields, and even Guardian shielding-- not to mention all the others he's killed with it... His HV is potent as shit.

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Zod's heat vision went through Superman...

Not in the same manner as Prime's. You actually see a struggle of it.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
The shield has taken hits from Mjolnir and the Hulk without a scratch, that means it's durability is over 999 trillion times more powerful than their attacks. I doubt his HV is 999 trillion times more powerful than The Hulk/Thor.

Failure to damage in itself doesn't imply the level in which to damage.
For, example I can squeeze and egg with 99% of the force required to bust it yet there won't be a scratch on it. Adding a mere 1% would bust the egg.

Now Prime's hv went through Superman without a struggle (unlike like Zod's hv) in such a way it appeared as Superman was a ghost. That implies how many times it was over Superman's durability.

In other words, failure to damage doesn't imply how much more is needed in order to damage and while damaging something in such a way does determine the level of attack.

Good try though

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carver9
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WTF, Zod heat vision went through Superman just as easily as Prime heat vision did. Have you seen this H1 or are you just guessing.?

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WTF, Zod heat vision went through Superman just as easily as Prime heat vision did. Have you seen this H1 or are you just guessing.?

I saw both a long time ago. Zod's hv had a little struggle to it. It appeared to penetrate a solid object. Prime's on the other hand went through like Superman was a ghost. This is a huge difference. Plus prime was much weaker than his normal self.

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Not in the same manner as Prime's. You actually see a struggle of it.

Failure to damage in itself doesn't imply the level in which to damage.
For, example I can squeeze and egg with 99% of the force required to bust it yet there won't be a scratch on it. Adding a mere 1% would bust the egg.

Now Prime's hv went through Superman without a struggle (unlike like Zod's hv) in such a way it appeared as Superman was a ghost. That implies how many times it was over Superman's durability.

In other words, failure to damage doesn't imply how much more is needed in order to damage and while damaging something in such a way does determine the level of attack.

Good try though

Good for the egg, but the shield's durability has been proven to be over 999 trillion times greater than Thor/Hulk's damage output.

Can you prove that Superboy prime's hv is that powerful?

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I'd give a charged Mjolnir strike by Thor a good shot at breaking the shield, provided Thor put everything he had behind said strike.

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Zod's heat vision went through Superman...

Under a red sun.

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^ Do you have the scans, and/or an issue number of the Zod HV instance? I remember seeing it a few times, but can't recall where.

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^ Do you have the scans, and/or an issue number of the Zod HV instance? I remember seeing it a few times, but can't recall where.

Superman v2 215. H don't have the scans currently though.

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Zod>Prime. He actually did something Prime never did, and that was break Superman jaw with a single hit.

Different zod who was equal to superman in every way and suckerpunched him at very high speed.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Shield clears.

Correct answer. thumb up

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Zod>Prime. He actually did something Prime never did, and that was break Superman jaw with a single hit.

Different Zod.

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^ Do you have the scans, and/or an issue number of the Zod HV instance? I remember seeing it a few times, but can't recall where.

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Prime would only need to be weakened to the point where he was as strong as Phantom Zone Zod:

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Under a red sun.

Where superman gets a massive downgrade in durability opposed to his other powers.

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In all fairness, Prime was very, very weak when his HV pierced Superman-- which says a lot, imo.

Either way, I recently saw an AvX cover, on which Cap's shield can be seen soaking a blast from PF Cyclops.

Yeah Prime was weak. Makes you think about the level his HV is really on at normal levels.

About AvX, Scott was most likely holding back like he did against Glads. The Phoenix aura didn't flare up + Xavier was standing near Cap.

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Good for the egg, but the shield's durability has been proven to be over 999 trillion times greater than Thor/Hulk's damage output.

Can you prove that Superboy prime's hv is that powerful?

999 trillion? Does anyone have a citation on this, or a scan?

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999 trillion? Does anyone have a citation on this, or a scan?

I thought it was common knowledge. Im surprised u didn't know.

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Good for the egg, but the shield's durability has been proven to be over 999 trillion times greater than Thor/Hulk's damage output.

Can you prove that Superboy prime's hv is that powerful?

No it hasn't, remember the egg example disproves it. Lack of damage doesn't show how much more you need (unless you describe how it feels).

Yes I have because it is how you damage something that shows the level

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