Link cannot stop Dangoro's rolling without the boots. No one is arguing against this particular point. However, Link then picks up and throws Dangoro, which is the strength feat we're talking about.
Now, the Iron Boots have no purpose except to make Link heavier. They do nothing else. That should mean that Link picking up and throwing Dangoro, using his upper body strength, has absolutely nothing to do with the boots. However, quanchi seems to think that Link needs the boots to throw things, hence the "do the boots make Link stronger?" question he keeps dodging. If the answer is yes, he's denying what the boots canonically do and making up a power they don't have. If the answer is no, he's conceding that Link has super strength.
Not what we're saying. The mechanics argument is that game mechanics such as health and damage aren't an accurate representation of a character, only the story (cutscenes and required events) is canon, whereas the "optional" gameplay is not.
Link being hit by a bokoblin in the game is not canon.
Link being hit by a bokoblin in cutscene, however, is canon.
So is Link's durability improving during the game, as he gains power. This is not the same as saying the Piece of Heart mechanic is also canon. One is a statement made in game by reliable characters and steadily improving feats, while the other is a non-canon health bar. Link in the beginning of the game can be knocked out by a bokoblin with a club, but later take a blunt axe to the face without damage, but it isn't because he has more hearts.
Obviously GTA characters can survive being ridden with assault rifle bullets, and never die even when shot in the head, they are just sent to the hospital, and out in an hour.
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Story/Gameplay segregation. It's pretty simple. In the face of Link's durability the enemies that harm him in gameplay either cannot actually do so or are strong as ****.
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Well, no, he doesn't take damage without the boots because he's still just as durable, he's just not heavy enough to stop a heavier mass in motion with so little space.
Because Russell doesn't seem to be strong enough. =P
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OK I understand so a basic rule of videos within a game solidifies what a character can in fact withstand in regards to damage over what the gameplay itself shows the character taking?
That's something that needs to be shown in the rules of the All Versus Forum for us peoples who didn't spend time in the GVF.
It's a nice rule.
Yeah these kinds of feats like Hitman 47 taking such damge always troubled me in regards to such threads. I'm aware now.
Gotta learn eventually.
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