Again, the box office gold and the relevance of comic book super heroes was at the box office not some shitty cartoons or live action shows. Marvel is handing dc their asses. Hang your hat on smallville while I laugh at you.
Yes but the hype's created by all these things. Kids who used to love JL and JLU will now be older and go to watch ensemble superhero movies all excited about it.
Yes I will bring up Smallville and Arrow. You just stick to SHIELD Lol.
As for Box Office draw, Batman's the biggest. Nolan's franchise has had a HUGE impact on superhero movies. Only the ignorant (You) would ignore this and say it's all due to Marvel.
The biggest? At the moment, all 3 of the Raimi Spiderman films combined have grossed more than all 3 of the Nolan Batman films combined. Both of their best movies in their respective franchises (Spiderman 2, TDK) have the exact same critic rating. Spiderman 1 has outdone Begins in terms of rating and gross. TDKR outdid Spiderman 3 in terms of rating and gross. That said, Nolans movies HAVE had a huge impact on super hero movies, and raised the bar. Its not like they're obsolete or anything like that, but Batman doesn't outdo Spiderman for sure.
The Avengers franchise movies have blown them both away though (in terms of box office, not rating).
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Last edited by Arachnid1 on Dec 10th, 2013 at 06:40 PM
Yeah only because BB didn't have much hype to it being a reboot. (Just like TASM was the least successful Spider-Man movie to date, but not the worst. Not by a long shot.)
Whilst the first Spider-Man Ramai film was the first Big Screen Spiderman movie so had much more hype and excitement to it.
But as a franchise I'm sure Nolan's Batman was worth more, since 2 of them surpassed the Billion Dollar mark WW, whilst no Spider-Man movie has made that much.
Yeah I meant Nolan's Batman is the biggest Solo superhero franchise.
The only thing I'd give TDK movies over the Marvel movies is consistent quality. All of them were great (with TDK being exceptional). Spiderman 3 was damn terrible, and hurt the franchise. Spiderman 1 was great, and Spiderman 2 was exceptional. The only reason 3 didn't easily pass the billion mark was because it was a terrible film, and it rode Spiderman 2s hype to get as far as it did. It didn't live up to either of the Spiderman films, unfortunately. That said, Raimis Spiderman still is the highest grossing solo franchise. On top of that, if you account for inflation, the money all 3 of the Spiderman films made is worth over a billion individually today. Money isn't worth as much as it used to be worth.
The highest grossing solo super hero movie is Iron Man 3 (as much as f*cking hate that movie). Batman doesn't hold any records financial records. It does have the most consistent quality of all solo franchises though, which I'd say is more important than the money aspect.
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Last edited by Arachnid1 on Dec 10th, 2013 at 07:24 PM
After marvel was aquired by Disney, its films have been pretty consistent in their entertainment quality.
What marvel movies have over TDK, is the added sense of satisfaction due to continuity in the marvel universe.
Just recently watched this. I had a decent time with it. I thought the dialogue was witty and sometimes captivating but could have used better timing in the performances. I hate to complain about the effects because they really aren't bad but I don't think they were anything special and at times felt a bit hokey and suffocating. I know it's an old complaint today but I really would have liked to have seen better sets, less blue screens and more practicality in the action. I think by the end of the movie I had almost lost complete interest in the movie. It really annoyed me how everyone kept teleporting through things and across realms. I don't know, this is me being very critical of course. While I appreciated the fact that they tried to make the stakes so dyer, with all realms being at risk I think the threat of the invading forces and their motives could have been developed and explained A LOT better. Even though so much was at stake, we never got to feel the vastness of everything that was involved and on the line. Their should have been more emphasis on warfare and on Thors abilities.
With all that said I had a good time with it was, for the most part, a step in the right direction. Aside from a few witty lines of dialogue and jokes The movie was ultimately forgettable to me though.
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I would have enjoyed a more diverse showing of Thor's feats. Rather than fighting with blunt force, it would have been nice to see Thor do some creative things with the Mjolnir. Also it seemed a little to easy for Thor to defeat Malekith and his minions. even big t!ts and her intern were evading the elves with ease.
Other than that awesome movie. Loki is officially my second favorite MCU character.