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MooCowofJustice
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I've finished refuting Jack's feats, bring some more up if you'd like and I'll refute them too. It hasn't been very difficult.

He engaged in sword play with Scotsmen... if we are going to draw tenuous links between stuff like that and strength, than Wolverine would be class 70-100. Logan's blocked attacks from numerous super strong characters without being overwhelmed by their strength, Gamora, Warbird and The Huntsmen two name just a few. He's physically over powered Ursa Major. He stopped Achelous bull charge... by running straight into it and ramming him with his head, and that guy one shotted Hercules. She Hulk had difficulty restraining him. Ect. ect. ect. Jack blocking the Scotsmen has as much to do with his strength as Wolverine not getting launched into a different continent every time a cl100 decks him. It's a plot mechanic... not a strength feat.

And? Wolverine's injured the Hulk with kicks, punches and head butts. If we are pretending that Jack fighting the Scotsmen is a strength feat, then Wolverine gets the same benefit of the doubt.


You have refuted nothing. You've only done exactly what I said, lowball Jack and wank Wolverine.

Jack blocked a sword strike and kept the Scotsman from cutting him in half. Constitutes as hell of a lot more of a strength feat than wriggling out of a bear hug or something.

Jack has fought armies of enemies single handedly, clearly demonstrated proficiency in martial arts and swordplay, leaped hundreds of feet into the air, and more. If you can show me Wolverine doing any of this crap, great. I'll do my best to raise you one feat better from Jack. What's nonsense is you showing me Wolverine doing that, and then turning around and saying "Oh, but Jack's doesn't count, 'cause later on this happens." Especially with this Deer kicking Logan's ass that I keep seeing, and with all of his other lower feats. You wreak of bias and general idiocy.


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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You have refuted nothing. You've only done exactly what I said, lowball Jack and wank Wolverine.

Jack blocked a sword strike and kept the Scotsman from cutting him in half. Constitutes as hell of a lot more of a strength feat than wriggling out of a bear hug or something.

Jack has fought armies of enemies single handedly, clearly demonstrated proficiency in martial arts and swordplay, leaped hundreds of feet into the air, and more. If you can show me Wolverine doing any of this crap, great. I'll do my best to raise you one feat better from Jack. What's nonsense is you showing me Wolverine doing that, and then turning around and saying "Oh, but Jack's doesn't count, 'cause later on this happens." Especially with this Deer kicking Logan's ass that I keep seeing, and with all of his other lower feats. You wreak of bias and general idiocy.

You bring up the deer feat and claim that he's biased and an idiot...... erm

There's hypocrisy afoot.

The only lowball I've seen him bring up is the dj. I've seen NUMEROUS accounts of Wolverine lowballing.

Fact is both sides seem to want this to be in easy win on their side and neither is really the case (as is apparent). But for the Jack fans to claim a stomp (casually dodging Wolverine's "Clumsy" strikes...) is absolutely laughable.


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In case anyone is wondering:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/...ss020021em4.jpg

Wolverine's reaction-time according to this is .038 seconds.

A normal Human's reaction time is .23 (Side Note... mine is .27). A Trained Martial Artist is allegedly .18.

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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You have refuted nothing. You've only done exactly what I said, lowball Jack and wank Wolverine.

Jack blocked a sword strike and kept the Scotsman from cutting him in half. Constitutes as hell of a lot more of a strength feat than wriggling out of a bear hug or something.

Jack has fought armies of enemies single handedly, clearly demonstrated proficiency in martial arts and swordplay, leaped hundreds of feet into the air, and more. If you can show me Wolverine doing any of this crap, great. I'll do my best to raise you one feat better from Jack. What's nonsense is you showing me Wolverine doing that, and then turning around and saying "Oh, but Jack's doesn't count, 'cause later on this happens." Especially with this Deer kicking Logan's ass that I keep seeing, and with all of his other lower feats. You wreak of bias and general idiocy.


I have, the thread is public record, anyone can go and read the previous pages, you aren't doing yourselves any favors by ignoring my points and pretending they haven't been brought up.

Wolverine has fought armies on more than one occastions. He's fought an army of N'Garai. He killed an army of super villains in EOTS. He's fought an army of Giger, killing so many that he plugged a dimensional portal with their corpses. He and Elektra fought 18,000 Hand Ninja in a single battle. He's destroyed a demon army on more than one occasion. When he was in hell he fought the collective forces of everyone he has ever killed. Ect. Ect. Ect. And then those are the large numbers. He's fought groups of 100-200 dozens of times.

Wolverine has jumped hundreds of feat himself. Most recently in Fear Itself: Wolverine, and Uncanny X-Force, Wolverine v AoA Iceman.

Wolverine has also "clearly demonstrated proficiency in martial arts and swordplay," and he's done so against established characters who have skill feats of their own.

The only ones low balling and citing PIS are you guys... it also happens to be partnered with insane over hyping of Jack's feats, embellishing his accomplishments and flat out lies.

It should be blatantly obvious to anyone even perusing this thread that I am the only one who knows enough about both characters to formulate an accurate opinion.


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More Speed..

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It could be argued this isn't a bullet so I suppose we can leave it out.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/...ulletnd9qi6.jpg
He catches a bullet here. Some people argue it's not canon but he works for the same company in Marvel as he does in Top Cow here, so it's very arguable that it is in canon.

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A Dodge to Blitz.

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More Dodging.

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Does anyone have an Optic Blast Quantified??

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He Seemingly vanishes into thin air from Nightcrawler.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I have, the thread is public record, anyone can go and read the previous pages, you aren't doing yourselves any favors by ignoring my points and pretending they haven't been brought up.

Wolverine has fought armies on more than one occastions. He's fought an army of N'Garai. He killed an army of super villains in EOTS. He's fought an army of Giger, killing so many that he plugged a dimensional portal with their corpses. He and Elektra fought 18,000 Hand Ninja in a single battle. He's destroyed a demon army on more than one occasion. When he was in hell he fought the collective forces of everyone he has ever killed. Ect. Ect. Ect. And then those are the large numbers. He's fought groups of 100-200 dozens of times.

Wolverine has jumped hundreds of feat himself. Most recently in Fear Itself: Wolverine, and Uncanny X-Force, Wolverine v AoA Iceman.

Wolverine has also "clearly demonstrated proficiency in martial arts and swordplay," and he's done so against established characters who have skill feats of their own.

The only ones low balling and citing PIS are you guys... it also happens to be partnered with insane over hyping of Jack's feats, embellishing his accomplishments and flat out lies.

It should be blatantly obvious to anyone even perusing this thread that I am the only one who knows enough about both characters to formulate an accurate opinion.

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You guys just lost to SRank. You should feel bad about yourselves.


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Do not lowball Ursa Major, he has hanged with several 100 tonners and even won on occasion, he's one though m_therfu__er.


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Kick their asses Srank!


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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It should be blatantly obvious to anyone even perusing this thread that I am the only one who knows enough about both characters to formulate an accurate opinion.


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Originally posted by Tzeentch._
You guys just lost to SRank. You should feel bad about yourselves.



What I feel bad about is he not giving a logical reason as to why Jack's chi charged attack wont put down Wolverine for the count.


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What I feel bad about is he not giving a logical reason as to why Jack's chi charged attack wont put down Wolverine for the count.


What's your handicap? I've explained it to you more than a dozen times. Is there an aid worker that is supposed to be taking care of you? Maybe ask them if they can help you understand.

Maybe you'd like to give a logical reason why Jack cutting through Robots who were destroyed by bullets, leads you to believe he can cut through Adamantium? If you can't use your words, draw it out with crayon and then have someone scan it for you.


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What's your handicap? I've explained it to you more than a dozen times. Is there an aid worker that is supposed to be taking care of you? Maybe ask them if they can help you understand.


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Explain how this "chi attack" would do anything to Wolverine.


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Explain how this "chi attack" would do anything to Wolverine.



Look at the fight between wolvie and Ragnarok.


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Stop huffing glue for a second, and explain why that has anything to do with Samurai Jack being able to cut through Adamantium.


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Stop huffing glue for a second, and explain why that has anything to do with Samurai Jack being able to cut through Adamantium.



No where did I say he can cut through adamantium.
That seems to be what is confusing you guys.
What I said is that chi charged attack can put down Wolvie.


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Originally posted by mastagambit
No where did I say he can cut through adamantium.
That seems to be what is confusing you guys.
What I said is that chi charged attack can put down Wolvie.


You are mental.

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I still stand by my claim that the chi charged slash would slice Wolvie in half, or slice his head off.
Whichever works for Jack.


As far as KO'ing Logan, that's been covered. Going by highest feats, he can take Hulk's punches and not get knocked the **** out.


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Originally posted by mastagambit
No where did I say he can cut through adamantium.
That seems to be what is confusing you guys.
What I said is that chi charged attack can put down Wolvie.




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You don't think it can slice Adamantium... but you do think it will put Wolverine down? Jesus Christ. Wolverine gets stabbed, and eviscerated on a pretty frequent basis. Hell, he gets pincushion by dozens of swords and doesn't bat an eye lid. Jack's sword being "charged" doesn't change the amount, or type, of damage it can cause. It's a millimeter thick blade that will slice Wolverine flesh... Jack might as well shoot spit balls at him for the use it will do.

AND WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RAGNAROK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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You don't think it can slice Adamantium... but you do think it will put Wolverine down? Jesus Christ. Wolverine gets stabbed, and eviscerated on a pretty frequent basis. Hell, he gets pincushion by dozens of swords and doesn't bat an eye lid. Jack's sword being "charged" doesn't change the amount, or type, of damage it can cause. It's a millimeter thick blade that will slice Wolverine flesh... Jack might as well shot spit balls at him for the use it will do.

AND WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RAGNAROK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I compare Ragnarok smacking wolvie around with Jack's chi charged slash.
The slash would slice and burn his flesh.


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Originally posted by Robtard
You are mental.



As far as KO'ing Logan, that's been covered. Going by highest feats, he can take Hulk's punches and not get knocked the **** out.



I still think the chi charged slash would slice him in half if Jack powers up enough! laughing out loud


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