GT was not part of the manga, no. And frankly using it would be foolish, considering how inconsistent and silly it is.
Thanos at base can damn near kill the Silver Surfer with like six punches, shatter a planet physically while fighting with Drax (While Goku can obviously bust a planet, he has no feats to suggest his physical might is nearly planetary), is durable enough to soak Goku's best attacks (His showing against Odin demonstrates this), and whatnot.
Speed is iffier because Marvel speed is inconsistent, Thor for example ranges from being slower than Wolverine to blitzing Skyfathers.
I was actually researching this the other day, and since you rad the manga maybe you know. did DBZ burst speed ever approach light speed. I remember things vaguely from the anime.
In which case it gets to inconsistent to say conclusively then. Did his power upscale throughout the comics? I mean it seems like the slower version might have been say back in the day when he was newly created.
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GT is full of logic errors and disappointing fighting displays but the theory is sound and whether you like it or not it is still a part of the story. And is all that Thanos you said could do without the help of any infinity gems like the power gem, plus are you sure thanos could take the universal spirit bomb wielded by a super saiyan 4 goku.
Like I said, I never followed GT. I can't really comment on that Goku.
I think Surfer's feats are better because they are better. For example, I just showed you Surfer blowing up a planet fairly casually. Goku did not replicate that feat.
....so it's a better feat.
I defended Silver Surfer because I saw some inaccuracies that needed correcting. If you want to see some Surfer fanboys, visit the comic vs forum.
I posted things Surfer actually did. That is jerking him off now?
As I've said before, you guys are speculating. It leads to problems.
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Its a train of logic. Power levels exponentially increase as the anime progresses. But you seem to be following the logic that just because goku never blew up a planet that he cant do it with relative ease. Even tho fodder characters like freiza could do it. At the end Of DBZ Goku was at least 20 million times stonger/faster than he was at super sayain when he aught freiza.
Thats just a lack of stats on my part i never looked up specific power levels. I always assumed he was much higher at Super Sayain 3. But either way you slice it blowing up a planet is hardly a challenge for him.
I get that its a train of logic. I'm pointing out that this logic doesn't point to anything quantifiable. It's mostly useless outside of the series itself.
For example, say Goku's powerlevel is 24,000,000,000. What does this mean in exact terms? Can he bust a planet? A solar system? A galaxy? The universe?(Some people do make that claim.)
We're just speculating since Goku hasn't come anywhere near that.
Last edited by StyleTime on Nov 28th, 2012 at 05:43 AM
I never made the solar system claim. I dont see the universe thing happening...... shit is infinite lol, unless were talking the GT thing here but that still would be a huge claim. All i know is if 150,000,000 can destroy a planet thats peanuts to 24 billion.
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How many times must I say it just because he has never done it doesn't mean he can't, goku has greatly surpassed people who have destroyed planets and including one who can destroy a solar system with one blast. So are you saying that if goku could blow up planets and a solar system he would do it, goku's the hero remember. I'm sorry mate but you have lost this argument, I've even got others backing me up here so give it up, all you've got is he's never done it before which is a crap argument, there is a difference between speculation and obvious logic. 24,000,000,000 is a super saiyan 3 power level correct, and how far ahead is that from the saiyan saga's vegeta who was shown blowing up a planet from a blast with two fingers, but of course goku at super saiyans 1 to 4 despite all the training making himself constantly stronger and greatly stronger with time still can't destroy planets and solar systems just because he has never done it what kind of logic is that mr styletime.
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So now your paying attention to the logic errors in GT just because it fits your argument. I've been looking around and it seems you may be right about thanos but if he was that strong how did he lose to the avengers, only at the end of the world war hulk story could the hulk duplicate what thanos did to that planet. But I am still unsure how he would fair against goku after all perfect cell said himself he may be strong and have power but whats the point against someone with his speed which goku infinitely surpasses, heck raditz was shown to be faster than the speed of light when he dodged piccolo's special beam cannon, plus it has been stated from the fight between super saiyan goku and frieza that they are not as easily destroyed as a planet and again goku becomes infinitely stronger since then.
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