You mean that horrible fight scene where Thanos fought the guardians of the galaxy and avengers, and pretty much any hero they could find? Horrible showing for Thanos. His worst, ever, explained by comic fans as just Thanos getting 'Bendis'd'
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That (24 billion) doesn't exist as a canon fact, anywhere.
And based on the logarithmic calculation I did, it's much much more powerful than that. That should make sense because Vegeta's power at just 18,000-20,000 (I don't remember) could be felt planet wide. Goku's could be felt across the universe at SSJ3. The distances are absurd, by that point.
I know you didn't make those claims. I'm just pointing out where that logic usually leads. 24 billion is 160 times larger thant 150 million, but it doesn't equate to some across the board stat increase by that same number.
Basically, they don't get 160 times stronger, faster, more durable, etc.
I mean, planet destroying blasts are still a big deal even during the Buu saga. If the Z fighters were really wrecking worlds with "weak energy waves" by then.... well you know where I am going with that.
Read above. Also, I'm pretty sure Vegeta blowing up Arlis(or whatever the name was) was a filler episode.
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I truly do not care what a noncanon character said in a noncanon movie.
So now?
In literally my second post since this retarded argument started, I mentioned that.
Try to keep up, and do endeavor towards getting on my level.
That was probably Thanos's absolute lowest showing ever. And at least one guy there, Thor, could wreck Goku on his own.
The "Raditz is faster than the speed of light thing" isn't just exclusive to the anime, but it is exclusive to that specific dub, the original Japanese did not have that line. lolnoncanon
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Someone is getting too big for his boots, and I can't tell you how sick I am of this canon non canon crap that term is used by fans who notice differences between movies and the series or between the series and the manga or between the english or american version and the japanese and use that to run away from feats or lines you don't like. And the term infinitely was just an expression for him getting vastly stronger, you would have noticed that if you weren't so desperate to make yourself feel big and superior. And I hope you were talking about thor with the odin force or the power gem because otherwise your off your rocker if you think a thor with no enhancements can beat goku, I would only just give you thanos but thor come on now your just getting silly. If your going to take part in a versus thread you have got to understand and respect both sides which you clearly don't. And by the way a super saiyan 4 level fight would theoretically result the same way the fight between thanos and drax did because back when super saiyan 3 goku was fighting kid buu their fight was tearing apart the supreme kai planet so after 16 years of intense training and six of those spent training himself and uub goku's base form equalled majin buu and after that he reached super saiyan 4, so it does make sense that super saiyan 4 fight at least by the time goku turned the tables on syn shenron would be at least capable of duplicating thanos's fight with drax, the only reason a super saiyan 4 fight didn't do that is because that would automatically make it game over with no atmosphere to breathe in and the planet goku was fighting to save would be gone just like that, so the makers made sure that doesn't happen for the sake of the storyline just like they did with the fight between thanos and the avengers. But of course someone as biased as you wouldn't agree with me just because you prefare marvel to dragon ball z and gt.
That idea has been debunked. King Kai felt it as well: well within this dimension but still across the dragonball universe.
In addition, the Kai's realm my be a different dimension, but it is physically reachable by instant transmission. Also, the image going around shows the kai's world being, literally, across the universe.
So, you're making a case for why it is such an absurd power: it was felt not only across the universe but an entirely different dimension.
I'm still confused by that. SSJ3 Goku's power was felt across the entire universe yet Mystic Gohan's wasn't. Yet Mystic Gohan is supposed to be>>>SSJ3 Goku right.
Not saying it's wrong but it just doesn't make sense so if anyoen could explain that weird case to me I'd be good.
When Gohan tried to go Super Saiyan, it didn't start to shake apart the whole Kai planet.
The SSJ3 form just seems different. Think of it like Bleach:
Mystic Gohan is like Ichigo's Bankai form: all of that power compressed and focused in a compact form.
SSJ3 Goku is like Kenpachi without his eyepatch: overflowing with absurd amounts of power that cannot be contained.
And, I'd say SSJ3 Goku is roughly equal to Mystic Gohan with Gohan getting a slight edge. In the anime, SSJ3 Goku did better against Fused Super Buu than Mystic Gohan. Some say that is due to Goku's greater martial arts experience. I say it may be possible that Goku's power in SSJ3 is potentially greater than Mystic Gohan's.
That's not enough to prove Goku's power was felt everywhere in the Universe. We would need to see someone standing at the farthest place in the DB Universe from Earth taking notice of Goku's ki in order to prove your theory.
I am above you in every regard, insipid insect. Get on my level.
Stop whining. You mewl like a child.
There are inconsistencies.
If you really want to go this route, do you want me to dig up FSSJ Goku crying out in pain from elephants stepping on his hand?
You're the lowest kind of DBZ fanboy. You're not even using an anime feat, you're using a line that only exists in that particular English dub, not only was it not intended by Toriyama, it wasn't even intended by those who ran the anime.
I don't have to make myself "feel" superior to you. I already am.
Thor could physically overpower Goku with on hand.
I've been reading DBZ longer than you've been jerking to it on thisboard.
Holy shit, learn how to use a period.
And no. SSJ4 Goku struggled to support the weight of half a city. But you believe he could physically smash a planet? How comical.
You know, I wasn't even going to grace you with a reply, until I saw this quoted in StyleTime's post.
Do some ****ing research before you say shit you don't know about.
**** Marvel, I couldn't give a damn about most Marvel comics or heroes, Thor being one exception, and even then I prefer Goku and DBZ in general more.
I actually wish that SS4 did something spectacular in GT. Base Goku in GT was already as strong as SS3-Goku at the end of Z, so SS4 could have at least done some FTL or Star-busting feats
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Oh my god you just proved my point about you, you are a serious egomaniac who isn't afraid of tearing down people like me for having a different interpretation of dragon ball z and gt, and do you honestly think that calling me an insipid insect isn't pathetic. And have some dignity dude, you think researching all that stuff about dragon ball z and gt is something to be proud of, thats why you think your superior to me in every regard you complete saddo. Its people like you that ruin threads for people and turn them bitter, we are both dragon ball z, gt and marvel fans, can't you at least respect that. And can you back up your claim that thor could beat goku with one hand with something other than logic errors in the series, preferably with a feat of thor's without the help of the odin force or power gem.
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