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Nibedicus
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Really don't see them "flying thru each other" at 0:35 dude. Repeated it over snd over. It looks more like they were passing thru each other's smoke trails w/c really isn't the samr thing, if anything, from them breaking thru the brick wall then breaking thru the glass of the shop, it looks even MORE that they're very much tangible in this form.

I don't think anyone is arguing that they can't turn invisible, tho.

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Originally posted by Casper Whitey
At no time does he point his wand at the gate. He waves in in front of himself, that's all.


So you're claiming that he turned himself intangible with a spell?


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Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Not convinced? K, feast your eyes:





FF to :35, we can plainly see Death Eaters flying right through one another.

FF to 1:13, we can plainly see the Death Eaters going invisible as they circle the bridge.

And, at the end of the vid, as they appear from invisibility, the Death Eater on the right flies right through the Death Eater in the middle.


They are weaving through the smoke trails. Nothing more.



At 6:25 we see Kinglsey use a spell to sorta freeze time. From there it's easy to see that the Death Eaters aren't actually smoke but instead just covered in it.

It's also apparent in this:



Here we have Voldemort physically grappling with Harry. Clearly he is not intangible while using this spell.

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So you're claiming that he turned himself intangible with a spell?
I am claiming nothing.


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They are weaving through the smoke trails. Nothing more.



At 6:25 we see Kinglsey use a spell to sorta freeze time. From there it's easy to see that the Death Eaters aren't actually smoke but instead just covered in it.

It's also apparent in this:



Here we have Voldemort physically grappling with Harry. Clearly he is not intangible while using this spell.
No. At :35, one passes right through another. The second example, OK, I'll admit, the angle makes it hard to see.


Freeze time, you say? Cool. That's one more weapon the Death Eaters have.


Also, if what you say is true, then the Death Eaters can endure mad punishment while in smoke form. Examples? In the vid I posted they smashed through a stone wall with no damage. In the attack on the burrow, they smashed through the walls of the house with no damage.

Either way, while in smoke form, they are too much for the Avengers.


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They don't pass through each other, its just the smoke trail.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
They don't pass through each other, its just the smoke trail.
If this is true, then the Death Eaters are that much more deadly while in smoke form.


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No. At :35, one passes right through another. The second example, OK, I'll admit, the angle makes it hard to see.


Freeze time, you say? Cool. That's one more weapon the Death Eaters have.


Also, if what you say is true, then the Death Eaters can endure mad punishment while in smoke form. Examples? In the vid I posted they smashed through a stone wall with no damage. In the attack on the burrow, they smashed through the walls of the house with no damage.

Either way, while in smoke form, they are too much for the Avengers.


I looked at 0:35 time and again. It really does look likr a smoke trail here.

Not really a time freeze IMO. More like a matrix-style cinematography/SFX where the camera is panned while the action is frozen for dramatic effect (it would be consistent to how the scene was showcased).

The brick wall breaking snd bridge shaking was definitely impressive, tho. Nothing that shows intangibility, tho.

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I looked at 0:35 time and again. It really does look likr a smoke trail here.

Not really a time freeze IMO. More like a matrix-style cinematography/SFX where the camera is panned while the action is frozen for dramatic effect (it would be consistent to how the scene was showcased).

The brick wall breaking snd bridge shaking was definitely impressive, tho. Nothing that shows intangibility, tho.


:35 is obvious. Watch again with some level of objectivity.

Could be, good point.

What I said stands then.


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If this is true, then the Death Eaters are that much more deadly while in smoke form.


lolwut?


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lolwut?
Didn't see that one coming, didya?


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I have no idea what you're talking about. Why would they be more deadly if they go through smoke trails?

Are... are you high? It's ok, I'm not a nark.


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:35 is obvious. Watch again with some level of objectivity.

Could be, good point.

What I said stands then.


I'm literally doing pause-play-pause-play-pause-play for the exact moment when they pass thru each other. Not seeing it man. sad

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Originally posted by Nephthys
I have no idea what you're talking about. Why would they be more deadly if they go through smoke trails?

Are... are you high? It's ok, I'm not a nark.
Go back and read what I said.


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I'm literally doing pause-play-pause-play-pause-play for the exact moment when they pass thru each other. Not seeing it man. sad
:35.


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I'm literally doing pause-play-pause-play-pause-play for the exact moment when they pass thru each other. Not seeing it man. sad


Because they don't, they fly close and around each other, mixing in their smoke a bit.

There's other scenes where we see their physical forms while in the smoke, they're not just clouds of smoke.


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Originally posted by Casper Whitey
:35.


From what I see, at 0:35 one flew slightly ahead of the 2 and the other flew near/past his smoke trail.

That's it, man. sad

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Nothing happens at 35. Its just more RJ madness.

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Go back and read what I said.


You ever consider they broke through that wall with, say.... MAGICAL SPELLS!

I'm watching the burrow scene and I can't really tell if they're actually going through it. Its pretty hard to tell whats going on. Even they they could be going through a window or something.


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At no time does he point his wand at the gate. He waves in in front of himself, that's all.


I disagree. to me it looks like he waves it in front of the gate. The gate even looks kind of fog like. When he walks through it, it seems as if it would if you walked through a cloud of smoke. The draft of the walk causes some of it to trail you briefly.


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Nothing happens at 35. Its just more RJ madness.



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