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Silent Master
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Originally posted by omgchos
It may be a general term but your meaning is pretty specific. Your saying the AK curse wont kill him because hes immortal. So you mean he cant die dont you? In which case no proof.

And he did say it didnt he. Might as well make shit up as we go along if we arent gonna use movie dialogue in a movie versus thread to back up our claims. If we went back 2000 years and shot and egyptian in the face the other egyptians would say "it has to be magic" if we then explained to them its just a device. Just because odins spear doesnt have serial numbers and a power gauge written across its side doesnt automatically make it magic. Its the director of thor's fault here because in the comics they are indeed magic. To bad for the verses threads.


Feats >>>>>>> Statements, and we see them using magic without any tech.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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. Last i checked spiders and humans don't share physiology either, but the curse worked on both.


Depending on the spider type, but around 60% genetically shared material.


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i didn't make that up, JK Rowling did.






You're the one making stuff up... you're adding rules to the curse that weren't mentioned on screen. It's explicitly said to kill, not kill unless the person has a different physiology. Last i checked spiders and humans don't share physiology either, but the curse worked on both.

i don't understand your refusal to accept stated facts. using your logic, none of the spells would work on any person who isn't apart of the Harry Potter universe.


"Only one person is known to have survived it". Thats your stated fact? Shoulda watched your own video there. Like i said there is so much more in the book on the subject, yet here we are in movie vs.

Spiders are from earth and are carbon based life forms like us. They occupy environments similar to humans. Thor is from asguard, we have no clue how dense or resistant his body is to things like the killing curse. Thor has taken damage that would have obliterated any other human.

And as for the curse not working on anyone not from the HP universe, they were all humans so i dont know what your reasoning is there. Never said it wouldnt kill someone like hawkeye, captain or black widow. Tho cap does have his shield.


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Magical blasts from Odin's spear disintegrated Laufey, but Thor survived just fine.


Yes, Thor durability would protect him from being disintegrated... But I'm not inclined to believe that physical durability will prevent him from being killed by the killing curse.

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Didn't Fawkes also survive the AK?


No. It died. Then was reborn.

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And one off hand comment by Thor doesn't mean anything, we see them using magic, not tech.


Nah, pretty sure the movie goes with the whole "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" clause.

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"Only one person is known to have survived it". Thats your stated fact? Shoulda watched your own video there. Like i said there is so much more in the book on the subject, yet here we are in movie vs.

Spiders are from earth and are carbon based life forms like us. They occupy environments similar to humans. Thor is from asguard, we have no clue how dense or resistant his body is to things like the killing curse. Thor has taken damage that would have obliterated any other human.

And as for the curse not working on anyone not from the HP universe, they were all humans so i dont know what your reasoning is there. Never said it wouldnt kill someone like hawkeye, captain or black widow. Tho cap does have his shield.
OMFG! lol, I'm done.


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Feats >>>>>>> Statements, and we see them using magic without any tech.


We see no such thing. We see things as they probably designed us to see them. They did pretend to be gods and watched over earth. If i was pretending to be a god id make my tech look as magic as possible.


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OMFG! lol, I'm done.


Ive had my fork ready this whole time.


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Yes, Thor durability would protect him from being disintegrated... But I'm not inclined to believe that physical durability will prevent him from being killed by the killing curse.



No. It died. Then was reborn.



Nah, pretty sure the movie goes with the whole "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" clause.


That was an off hand statement by Thor, we see them use magic without any tech assistance.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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We see no such thing. We see things as they probably designed us to see them. They did pretend to be gods and watched over earth. If i was pretending to be a god id make my tech look as magic as possible.


What tech did we see them use?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Ive had my fork ready this whole time.
fork me, baby, for me hard.


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What tech did we see them use?


Well the Bifrost looks extremely mechanic. Even to the point if it haveng a large key it needed to function. The destroyer had moving parts and what looks like a power core. And that cool looking transporter tube they put the tesceract in to take LowKey and thor back to asguard. As we know that S.H.I.E.L.D. got close to harnessing the pwer of the teseract. Unless your saying that they somehow harnessed magic with some earth based technology.


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That was an off hand statement by Thor, we see them use magic without any tech assistance.


What? So since you don't like it you just ignore it? And you don't seem to understand what Clarktech is. The film hinted at the Asgardian powers simply being extremely advanced tech well beyond human understanding. As such it appears to be magic to us, even though it isn't.

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fork me, baby, for me hard.


What are you buffalo bill? lol/


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This has been argued before in the MVF and it's inconclusive. It could or could not be magic or both.

imo, I'd side with Clarke's 3rd Law and the Asgardians themselves being super-powered due to their physiology and not wizard-types. With the magic-tech combo being possible.


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Its funny that it always comes down to thor and hulk in these threads. And occasionally iron man. The other three seem to be fodder.


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What are you buffalo bill? lol/
I'd fork me.


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I'd fork me.

Go fork yourself.


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Its funny that it always comes down to thor and hulk in these threads. And occasionally iron man. The other three seem to be fodder.
which is why they (Hawkeye and Widow) need to go away for the next Avengers movies. They offer nothing and force the writers to manufacture things for them to do... they are the superhero equivalent of "everybody gets to play" in pop warner football.


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which is why they (Hawkeye and Widow) need to go away for the next Avengers movies. They offer nothing and force the writers to manufacture things for them to do... they are the superhero equivalent of "everybody gets to play" in pop warner football.

Id argue that they are good for support. At least hawkeye has a marketable skill.


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Black Widow has marketable ass.


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