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You haven't proven anything other than that you're biased enough to ignore the capabilities of any character who isn't your favourite.


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You haven't proven anything other than that you're biased enough to ignore the capabilities of any character who isn't your favourite.
What am I ignoring ? i cited examples/facts. The fanboys want to ignore this and say grunt blasts. laughing out loud


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What am I ignoring ? i cited examples/facts. The fanboys want to ignore this and say grunt blasts. laughing out loud
Yoda can casually deflect and avoid attacks much faster than any of Dumbledore's ergo, Dumbledore will not hit him. This is simple.


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Yoda can casually deflect and avoid attacks much faster than any of Dumbledore's ergo, Dumbledore will not hit him. This is simple.
2-3 second attack ko'd Yoda. Dumbledore is 3 times faster than this. Yoda gets disarmed when a blast of continuous energy hits his saber. laughing out loud Facts. Kiddo.


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2-3 second attack ko'd Yoda. Dumbledore is 3 times faster than this. Yoda gets disarmed when a blast of continuous energy hits his saber. laughing out loud Facts. Kiddo.
Shame Dumble's spells are all slower than blast bolts so he literally will never connect, and even if he does, disarming Yoda achieves nothing, whereas disarming Dumbles takes away all of his power.


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Shame Dumble's spells are all slower than blast bolts so he literally will never connect, and even if he does, disarming Yoda achieves nothing, whereas disarming Dumbles takes away all of his power.
They are far faster than Palpatine's attack. Yoda loses his saber immediately too. Dumbledore can set the room on fire without a wand. watch the movies. Your ignorance makes me sick. Hell, even harry can use magic minus a wand.


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They are not faster than blast bolts which Yoda casually avoids. Herp. Derp.

No wand no spells. It's simple. And the fact that it's the Elder Wand makes taking it from Dumbles all the more crippling.


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Well there are wandless spells but they are stated to be weaker and less focused than with a wand.

The only things Ive seen Dumbledoor cast without a wand is the teleportation, reducing Harry's falling speed and a TK far below Jedi levels.

There aren't that many spells shown without a want, and none of them are more powerful than a minor force push. Wizards are highly crippled without a wand to use the vast majority of spells, or any to a useful degree.

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Well it's still faster than the attack which ko'd Yoda so I win any way you look at it. You wanting to ignore defeats or when he didn't block something is all too telling. You wanting to ignore the time it took for him to react was indeed human level.

Yoda only blocked the lightning with his hands. He was disarmed when he tried blocking it with the saber so that isn't an option. Dumbledore disarms him right out of the gate. We also see the severity or the force of the attack matters since Yoda couldn't simply redirect the power. He was also hit by as was Palpatine. Yoda was on the worse end of the stick since he fell off the pod.

Again back to the grunt debating. It's pathetic. No, really it is. I have already proven my case hands down.

Dumbledore beats them both.


"Yoda only blocked the lightning with his hands." I don't know why Im arguing this when you admit it yourself.. Yoda is proven to be able to block it = Yoda has the reactions to block it = the off-guard times he hasnt points to CIS. You admit he can block the lightning, so he has the reactions.

Its not 'back to'. The only reason I left that is because you wanted to cite an off-guard moment, one which Yoda has proven to be able to react again.

Problem is that nothing discredits the speed Jedi's have to deflect several blasters shooting at them.


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They are not faster than blast bolts which Yoda casually avoids. Herp. Derp.

No wand no spells. It's simple. And the fact that it's the Elder Wand makes taking it from Dumbles all the more crippling.
Why ? Dumbledore can create fire in a room with ease. Is Yoda fireproof ? he also casted a spell without his wand. Did you watch the movies ? You are hands down one of the most ignorant posters I have ever come across. watch the movies, kid.


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"Yoda only blocked the lightning with his hands." I don't know why Im arguing this when you admit it yourself.. Yoda is proven to be able to block it = Yoda has the reactions to block it = the off-guard times he hasnt points to CIS. You admit he can block the lightning, so he has the reactions.

Its not 'back to'. The only reason I left that is because you wanted to cite an off-guard moment, one which Yoda has proven to be able to react again.

Problem is that nothing discredits the speed Jedi's have to deflect several blasters shooting at them.
Yoda can't just simply block the more powerful lightning. If he could have he wouldn't have went flying over the senate pod. watch the scene. He can only block weaker attacks not Palpatine's lightning without any drawback.

Yoda loses his saber and can't block any continuous stream of energy with his saber. Dumbledore's magic is also far more powerful than Palpatine's force lightning.

Those opponents aren't skilled. Yoda struggles against skilled opponents and can't block the beam of energy with his saber anyway. So who cares if he can block a blast blast. He isn't blocking anything with his saber.


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Why ? Dumbledore can create fire in a room with ease. Is Yoda fireproof ? he also casted a spell without his wand. Did you watch the movies ? You are hands down one of the most ignorant posters I have ever come across. watch the movies, kid.
Someone's assmad. Disarming Yoda is 1. Impossible without hitting him 2. Pointless because Yoda's saber is not a wand and he can use his powers without it. Disarming Dumbles cripples him.

Dumbles is too slow, more accurately his spells are, to hit Yoda. Yoda can simply force push him as he sees fit.

How's that, kid?


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Someone's assmad. Disarming Yoda is 1. Impossible without hitting him 2. Pointless because Yoda's saber is not a wand and he can use his powers without it. Disarming Dumbles cripples him.

Dumbles is too slow, more accurately his spells are, to hit Yoda. Yoda can simply force push him as he sees fit.

How's that, kid?
When has Dumbledore been disarmed when he didn't allow it ? Yoda can't block a continuous energy attack without losing his saber.

2-3 second type attack ko'd him which is far slower than dumbledore's best. Yoda while fighting an inferior opponent sat back for 15 seconds while Dooku was tking and trying to kill his allies.

You claimed he can't do spells or magic without spells. Even blood rain corrected your ignorance. You are just ignorant all across the board.


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Dumbles has never gone against anything more dangerous than another wizard.

Yoda need only avoid this attack, and losing his saber does nothing since he can just TK it back and it doesn't diminish his power. Yoda can casually avoid blast fire, which is faster than potter magic.

You calling me ignorant is amusing, so please, do continue. stick out tongue


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Dumbles has never gone against anything more dangerous than another wizard.

Yoda need only avoid this attack, and losing his saber does nothing since he can just TK it back and it doesn't diminish his power. Yoda can casually avoid blast fire, which is faster than potter magic.

You calling me ignorant is amusing, so please, do continue. stick out tongue
Wizards are at the top of the food chain. he'd have a field day with Link. The funny thing is Link a 17 year old kid beat Ganondorf with a few weeks of training.

Yoda can't avoid his attack since he couldn't avoid the force lightning. Why didn't Yoda tk and get his saber back against Palpatine ? I gues Dumbledore just stands there and lets him, right ?

When did Yoda avoid blaster fire by flipping around it ? I don't recall this.


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Wizards are at the top of the food chain. he'd have a field day with Link. The funny thing is Link a 17 year old kid beat Ganondorf with a few weeks of training.

Look at this guy, bringing his Zelda butthurt into more threads.

An undefined amount of training from a previous hero, the Master Sword which is a planetary level artifact, the triforce of courage, super human strength, speed, and skill. Also, Link > Voldemort.

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Wizards are at the top of the food chain. he'd have a field day with Link. The funny thing is Link a 17 year old kid beat Ganondorf with a few weeks of training.

Yoda can't avoid his attack since he couldn't avoid the force lightning. Why didn't Yoda tk and get his saber back against Palpatine ? I gues Dumbledore just stands there and lets him, right ?

When did Yoda avoid blaster fire by flipping around it ? I don't recall this.

So your entire argument is that you're going to lowball Yoda from one fight and ignore everything else about the character.

Rather than support Dumbledore, you're just trying to discredit Yoda. Except that doesn't work because Yoda's capabilities are well established.


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Let me get this straight.
Yoda is capable of catching lightning with his hands but looses his saber if he's holding it. So you want to get rid of his sabe, making him in his best energy catching state.
Dumbledore's best reaction is about a second faster than yoda's worst. So the wizard is going to out speed him.
Yoda can reflect multiple blasts with his sword, while all dumbledore's fights are one on one. So the wiz has greater accuracy.

I just want to remind everyone that yoda was able to rip a starship from the mud of his swamp on his deathbed. I'm no scientist but I do have experience with mud, and lifting anything out of swamp mud when it's that far in is an impressive feat.

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Look at this guy, bringing his Zelda butthurt into more threads.

An undefined amount of training from a previous hero, the Master Sword which is a planetary level artifact, the triforce of courage, super human strength, speed, and skill. Also, Link > Voldemort.


So your entire argument is that you're going to lowball Yoda from one fight and ignore everything else about the character.

Rather than support Dumbledore, you're just trying to discredit Yoda. Except that doesn't work because Yoda's capabilities are well established.
False. Link has a sword. The sword kills dorf. The sword showed no advantages against any other foes. Just because Dorf was outdueled don't blame it on the sword. Link the 17 year old deserves some credit.

Wait until you see what I have in store for Link in the battlezone. I am going to shame him. Just wait and see, domme.

I didn't lowball him. You fanboys want to ignore the times he was ko'd due to being a fanboy. The only thing that counts is when he pwned the grunts. Yoda rocks, dude.

I cited Yoda fights in which he was disarmed by a continuous energy blast. Dumbledore can easily do so. Do I really need to post a video of him shooting a continuous energy beam ?

You also said he can't cast spells without wands, ignoramus. You lack a clue.


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Let me get this straight.
Yoda is capable of catching lightning with his hands but looses his saber if he's holding it. So you want to get rid of his sabe, making him in his best energy catching state.
Dumbledore's best reaction is about a second faster than yoda's worst. So the wizard is going to out speed him.
Yoda can reflect multiple blasts with his sword, while all dumbledore's fights are one on one. So the wiz has greater accuracy.

I just want to remind everyone that yoda was able to rip a starship from the mud of his swamp on his deathbed. I'm no scientist but I do have experience with mud, and lifting anything out of swamp mud when it's that far in is an impressive feat.
Yoda couldn't stop Palpatine's lighting completely as the blast sent his ass off the pod. Rewatch the scene because I am pretty sure Yoda didn't want to fall off the pod. If he can easily block energy blasts then why did he go flying off the pod ?

His average reactions are 2-3 times what ko'd Yoda. Yoda's worst reactionary feat I clocked was 15 seconds. Get your facts straight. I mean wtf.

Yoda's fight swith Dooku and Palpatine were one on one. Anything else you want to say ?


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If you are seriously arguing that he is just as powerfull without a wand, you need to rethink qnd rewatch for a bit, bro.

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1. Yoda got thrown back but palpy took most of the force. A knock like that would do some damage to a human.
2. Yoda's worst was catching the rubble coming at his friends right. Isn't protecting the helpless have priority over stabbing considering they call themselves peace keepers.
3.I was arguing reaction and accuracy, not destructive force.

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