No he cried like a man. Like when he was straightening out his forever ****ed back.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Talia was the only one with a fricken plan and it failed.
The Joker's plans don't fail because he doesn't have any.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
I love how people are like the Joker didn't have a plan, of course he had a plan. His plan was to get Gotham's people to kill themselves to show them their true selves which failed and you can tell his plan failed by the look on the Joker's face afterwards. He just told Harvey all that hogwash about chaos to get him to do what he wanted.
People still feared the Batman, I mean that one cop who shot Bruce's emp gun about peed himself when Batman gave him the are you serious face. So obviously people were still afraid of him.
He also took out multiple armed gunmen trained in the League of Shadows ways. That would by far be his best group fighting feat.
As for the brace you find a brick pillar that looks the same as the one in that shot and try and kick it apart and tell me how far you get down on it. My guess not very far at least not without a broken foot.
As for the Talia reveal nothing in the shots or aftermath contradicts anything Bane did.
She never said, "Oh look Bruce I'm the one who planned this all. I'm the one who did all the calculations." It's pretty obvious Bane was quite intelligent and obviously doing a lot of the heavy work for Talia, like planning, running the operations, and putting all the steps together.
I mean she may have put the overall plan together but it's pretty obvious Bane was the one making it work.
Unless you think while she was pretending to be a Gotham socialite for years trying to convince Bruce to give her the new energy source she found time to plan complex snatch and grabs, to the detail, as well as get all the contracts and business people together to rig all of gotham to blow up like it did, while sneaking all the men into gotham with heavy weapons.
I think at best Talia was more of a figure head, and she was like Bane I need Batman's armory make it happen. Bane I want this scientist make it happen. Bane this is my plan make it happen.
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Bomb wasn't evil. That would be like saying Talia's daggar was evil too. And the bomb didn't oppose anything. It just let everybody use it and throw it away. Like a WHORE!!!
I know what quan was saying and i was disagreeing. Bane was a henchmen. I very smart, very capable, very powerful HENCHMEN. And boom goes the dynamite
So you believe Batman's main adversary in the movie was Talia ? No, those are just the recurring villains. They aren't his ultimate enemies just the frequented ones.
Death of Superman--Doomsday, pal. He broke Superman. Luthor hasn't. Luthor just cooks up plans for years and always comes up short.
Batman was broken in combat by Bane not Joker. Joker might plague him more but having his back broken in combat >>>>Joker.
Now sit down Rob or I will have to embarrass you again. Laughable. Joker was easily taken in by Batman.
Joker deferred to him which kinda makes him his unofficial boss. Some uneventful showdown in an alley isn't greater than an event which almost takes gotham off the map.
You need to read some comics, or in the very least do a few minutes of internetting. A hero getting his ass kicked doesn't mean the ass-kicker is his/her arch nemesis by that merit alone.
You're too busy embarrassing yourself with wrongness, so slow down before you take on another task.
Each of these mega events needed someone badass enough to do so. It wasn't their recurring baddie. It was someone who took them to the brink. The Batman trilogy also makes it clear. Bane was the final main antagonist not Joker. Joker was someone he easily took out. Joker gave him the chance to take his own life. That's something a boss can do. Best part is this final villain thing backfired on you.
Bane broke Batman on screen. Joker was someone batman easily rounded up.
You can moan all you like, it's not going to change the canonical fact that The Joker and Luther are respectively Batman's and Superman's arch nemesis. Read some comics, man.
A boss needs someone to allow them the opportunity to kill them? Wow quan. Just wow. Bosses don't get permission to do things. Two Face needed permission. Just WOW
He didn't need permission. Giving someone the opportunity to take your life means he was the boss of his life. That's called owning someone. Due to being a recurring villain. Pay attention to what it is I am saying you hick.
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