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BloodRain
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Lowballing what, Zack?

And Veiler, claiming superiority because a person has things to do outside of this site? Poor form.
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Show me.

Travel speed.

Wonder Woman and Batman have tagged the Flash, it means jack shit.

Can you prove this?


Was on the death battle vid. What does vibrating him body have to do with travel?
And Superman reacting to and tagging FTL speed Flash in a melee range means nothing?


Goku's reactions before Tien used it.

"If kid Goku was FTL how on earth were the characters a great deal faster than him being hit by this light, up to Cell saga level characters?"


When did Whis say that about Bills' attack?


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So you're not referring to the Infinite Crisis event. Then what are you referring to.

Anyway, I'll let you in on a little secret. There's less energy exerted on Superman's body sandwhiched in between two planets than a point blank planet buster would exert.


How many feats do you want? And keep in mind that's I'm being generous.

I could go all into how DC considers Karate Kid's Ki Magic, and how anything magic (even cards) cuts up Superman to.


Exactly at light speed? That would be infinite energy, so yeah. But it would also kill Superman.
I don't remember the exact details. But I remember Superman tanking 2 planets being fused together. Among many other ridiculous feats like tanking the force equivalent to 50 supernovas(maybe more) after being exposed to red sun radiation.

I'm just saying it is not nice to select one feat and parade it around claiming that is Superman's top speed when he has other instances of being faster than bullets/much much faster than bullets. To try and claim Superman is not faster than bullets is just stupid. People will stop taking you seriously, if they ever did.

Yes Superman has no special protection against magic. Irrelevant since Dragonball's Ki is not magic. And Superman has his fair share of ridiculous showings against magical attacks.

Lets try and balance things.

Yes light speed and it was no ordinary moon. Yet Superman survived the entire ordeal. The moon got pulverized in the process.
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Lowballing what, Zack?

Wasn't talking about you. Was mainly agreeing on your reply to his 'Superman slower than bullets' scan.


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People still believe that Goku would is able to defeat Superman? What about the Death Battle?

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I think every non-fanboy thought it would end too, for a short moment.
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Superman>Goku


and guys i just went to look at the louge forum...and the wankage they have for DBZ....my heart was close to stopping


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the what forum?


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Louge forum.

I'm sorry but the coincidence with what he said is too much not to post :T


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Superman>Goku


and guys i just went to look at the louge forum...and the wankage they have for DBZ....my heart was close to stopping
This coming from a guy with Goku as his avatar, and oddly enough calls himself the hulk. And I'm sure a lot of superman fanboys are the same.

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Some DB fanboys still claim FTL+ and destruction well past Star System level.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Superman fanboy claim things that far from the truth.


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Some DB fanboys still claim FTL+ and destruction well past Star System level.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Superman fanboy claim things that far from the truth.
Come on it was said that Frieza could casually destroy the planet Namek during the fight between himself and Goku, so is it really hard to believe that with all the ascending and training since then that they can't do more than what they show, even by the time they reach super saiyan 4 level.

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Thats the thing. Without going by what we see all thats left is guessing what they can do without anything to back it up besides this guys stronger than that guy.


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Thats the thing. Without going by what we see all thats left is guessing what they can do without anything to back it up besides this guys stronger than that guy.
It's called an educated guess, in fact it's such an educated guess to the point where it is as good as a fact. You call yourself a DB fan but your not supportive of it at all.

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Being a fan doesn't mean I can go assuming without facts.

A Star buster requires 3,000,000,000 times the energy of an Earth buster, 400,000,000,000,000 times Earth busting to wipe out a Star System. Can you say that any Z characters attacks are that much more powerful than Freeza's planet busting attacks, by guessing alone?


The best DB feat, from Buu, with assumptions is said to be up tp 446,000 times Earth busting.


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Striking Power:

Shattering Space and Time -

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He can destroy a planet if he keeps at it -

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Sure enough -

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"As our skin splits, so does the earth."

Plows through Emperor Joker, a reality warper -

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Durability:

Holds a miniature black hole in his hand -

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Is the cushion for planets (So he can tank Kid Buu's casual blast, if anything could actually connect with that kind of power, it took Vegeta forever to get one beam like that and he MISSED)-

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Superman cuts a moon in half and is FINE (King Kai's planet isn't even moon sized, if the moon were compressed into the volume of King Kai's world (a few hundred meters), it would be hundreds and hundreds of Gs, that's how much larger the earth and the moon are than King Kai's world) -

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Btw he reached the moon at 2.5 times the speed of light.

Bizarro punches him through the entire earth, and he's smiling about it -

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Survives the full brunt of a supernova explosion (Super Perfect Cell's full power) -

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Strength:

Bench presses the equivalent weight of the earth for six days -

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Krypton's gravity is thousands of times greater than any other planet in fiction, check it:

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He can even crack Amazonian Weaponry by flinging his blood at it -

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Combat speed:

Changes clothes in a moment -

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Rebuilds a Skyscraper in Three Words -

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Rebuilds Bizaro City in a moment -

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Runs, gets some inc, and draws a bat symbol on this kid's shirt without anyone seeing him move (microseconds) -

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Flies to Paris, goes into a shop, grabs a bottle of Champagn, and goes back to America in between two words mid sentence -

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Here he tags the Flash, who casually fights at the Speed of Light -

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Intangibility -

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He outruns a terranova in 2 seconds, good luck tagging him with a ki blast -

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