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quanchi112
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Originally posted by Silent Master
US wins via bombing.
Posting the same response isn't debating. Prove it.


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You want me to prove that bombs ca kill Wizards?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
You want me to prove that bombs ca kill Wizards?
Prove it can break through their shields.


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As you're the one claiming that their shields can stop bombs, the burden is on you.


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posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
As you're the one claiming that their shields can stop bombs, the burden is on you.
Shields stop any object or force from breaching them until enough force breaches them. You claimed the bomb can easily breach the shields. Prove it.


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As you're the one claiming that their shields can stop bombs, the burden is on you.


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posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
As you're the one claiming that their shields can stop bombs, the burden is on you.
Shields stop anything from hitting them. You claimed the bombs kill them so the burden is on you.


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Megatons of force will easily breach the featless shields.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Shields stop anything from hitting them. You claimed the bombs kill them so the burden is on you.


The above is a claim, which means the burden is on you.


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posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by KingD19
Megatons of force will easily breach the featless shields.
So now the shields don't have any feats ? You didn't see the movies either. You're terrible.


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The above is a claim, which means the burden is on you.
So you disagree with the shield being a barrier in between the caster and the attack ?


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So now the shields don't have any feats ? You didn't see the movies either. You're terrible.


Post the feats.


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posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Protego has only been used to block arrows, lol.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
So now the shields don't have any feats ? You didn't see the movies either. You're terrible.


You're still using a No Limit Fallacy, ie shields can block anything.

Posts what the shields have blocked and you'll have a baseline of what they're capable of stopping. Should be easy for you to prove your case. Go.


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Sorry, Quan, but I must disagree on the Protego

That being stated, airstrikes are being massively overhyped here, as if they will solve all of the the U.S.'s problems (not an allegory for the drone debate, I swear to Allah). L.A. is a massive city, with a 469 sq mi area. Even if we took the U.S's most powerful non nuclear weapon, a MOAB, which had a blast yield of 11 tons of TNT (or only .011 kilotons). Based off this site, such a blast would only flatten .85 miles at most.


So to recap, the most powerful possible U.S airstrike can only take out a .85 mile radius, and the wizards have 469 mile radius to hide in, not to mention, as stated before, that they can fly high into the air far well beyond the blast radius. So unless the U.S is going to drop 533 MOABs (at bare minimum) at the same time, airstrikes taking out the wizards isn't gonna work here.


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You're aware that the military has more then 1 bomb and a single plane in order to drop them from, right?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
Sorry, Quan, but I must disagree on the Protego

That being stated, airstrikes are being massively overhyped here, as if they will solve all of the the U.S.'s problems (not an allegory for the drone debate, I swear to Allah). L.A. is a massive city, with a 469 sq mi area. Even if we took the U.S's most powerful non nuclear weapon, a MOAB, which had a blast yield of 11 tons of TNT (or only .011 kilotons). Based off this site, such a blast would only flatten .85 miles at most.


So to recap, the most powerful possible U.S airstrike can only take out a .85 mile radius, and the wizards have 469 mile radius to hide in, not to mention, as stated before, that they can fly high into the air far well beyond the blast radius. So unless the U.S is going to drop 533 MOABs (at bare minimum) at the same time, airstrikes taking out the wizards isn't gonna work here.




You're aware of the difference between precision strikes and mass bombings, yes?

A-10, F22, Apache gunship etc > flying wizards.


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All this silly talk about airstrikes, I forgot to ask, since you guys are being so scrutinizing towards the wizards screenfeats, what is the most powerful non-nuclear weapon that appeared in Battle: Los Angeles? Was it an airstrike that could wipe out a 469 sq mile radius, like you all are proposing? There was a carpet bombing which took out Santa Monica (15 mi), so there's that, but that leaves 454 miles to hide in.


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Originally posted by Robtard
You're aware of the difference between precision strikes and mass bombings, yes?


A mass bombing of five hundred and thirty three MOABs? laughing out loud
You're aware of how heavy a MOAB is right?

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Originally posted by Robtard
A-10, F22, Apache gunship etc > flying wizards.


Wizards can stay on the ground. they have a 469 sq mi playground and can teleport to any area they wish to avoid an airstrike in another area. If an airstrike flattens a 15 mile radius (the most powerful cluster-strike which appeared in Battle:Los Angeles)? They'll just teleport 100 miles away. They can teleport 300 miles away. They can teleport into different buildings and don't even have to come outside. Airstrikes are not nearly the threat you are presenting them to be. You act like L.A consists of one downtown area, when it's wayyy larger.


Airstrikes lose and I win smile


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Back to straw men. Did I say anything about dropping 533 MOABS? No. Just wanted you to be aware that the military has more options than just carpet bombing.

On the ground they die to bombs, bullets, missiles etc. They take the the air to avoid that, they get shredded by planes and helicopters.

Yes, the wizards will be able to hide with their powers; they can't hide forever though and there's only so many of them. US has loads to draw from.

You already conceded the loss, it's n record.


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