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Originally posted by quanchi112
Link did not do so and the only bolt he can reflect so can another. 1+1=2.
So even though it's canon lore that the sword can reflect magic, because Dorf does so with his own attack, which is also a canon lore ability of his, it means somehow the sword loses this trait?


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My claim has not changed.


But you said any sword could reflect it, didn't you?


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So even though it's canon lore that the sword can reflect magic, because Dorf does so with his own attack, which is also a canon lore ability of his, it means somehow the sword loses this trait?
We do not see his sword reflecting any and all magical attacks. It can dispel Magic. TP only.


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But you said any sword could reflect it, didn't you?
You are just focusing on one text of many. I don't include in every post every bit of relevant info as it gets tiresome repeating it over and over again. Any half decent sword should be able to do so.


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You are just focusing on one text of many. I don't include in every post every bit of relevant info as it gets tiresome repeating it over and over again. Any half decent sword should be able to do so.


So the Ordon sword should reflect it, right?


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We do not see his sword reflecting any and all magical attacks. It can dispel Magic. TP only.
Which is false as we see the very thing happen.


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So the Ordon sword should reflect it, right?
No. It is a shit sword.


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Which is false as we see the very thing happen.
Wha are you referring to ?


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We see it reflect this magical attack, so obviously it can reflect it. Its the Dead Mans Volly. The evidence is in the lore. There being only one MS, the same MS, in all timelines.

And thats where the evidence stops. See my evidence is the scene itself coupled with lore. Your evidence for any magic sword being able to do it to this attack is only this scene, and nothing more. So even if you decide to ignore the lore, what then? We'd both be left with out only evidence being the same scene.


No conclusion can be drawn unless the canon lore is used here.


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We see it reflect this magical attack, so obviously it can reflect it. Its the Dead Mans Volly. The evidence is in the lore. There being only one MS, the same MS, in all timelines.

And thats where the evidence stops. See my evidence is the scene itself coupled with lore. Your evidence for any magic sword being able to do it to this attack is only this scene, and nothing more. So even if you decide to ignore the lore, what then? We'd both be left with out only evidence being the same scene.


No conclusion can be drawn unless the canon lore is used here.
The only attack blast it reflected was the same one possessed Zelda can also reflect. We don't see Link reflect Zant's attack blasts so pretend he can but without any evidence coupled with possessed Zelda also reflecting the only blast Link did isn't really convincing any unbiased poster.


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Gee, if only there was some canon lore around that supported the blade. Any unbiased poser would see that, look at the lore and agree. I know you're not unbiased so I wouldn't assume the same here.

And those Twilight backed attacks hitting the Sol infused Blade? Dispersed.



Man we're pages in. So where are we? We have Dorf smacking away the single spell Tom can use here, which assumes said spell even works in the first place which.. kidding aside we know it wont. Is there anything this one-trick pony even has to harm Dorf?


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Gee, if only there was some canon lore around that supported the blade. Any unbiased poser would see that, look at the lore and agree. I know you're not unbiased so I wouldn't assume the same here.

And those Twilight backed attacks hitting the Sol infused Blade? Dispersed.



Man we're pages in. So where are we? We have Dorf smacking away the single spell Tom can use here, which assumes said spell even works in the first place which.. kidding aside we know it wont. Is there anything this one-trick pony even has to harm Dorf?
Again, should I go look at my TP entry when it comes to the master sword. I honestly have not looked but lets take it there.

Link ?

Dorf can't reflect anything back say the same bolt and only in zelda possessed form.

Crucio, fireballs, tearing his body apart by energy, or possession.

Riddle has far more versatility than Dorf who foolishły relies on a shitty sword. Can Dorf even fly here ?

What a loser.


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..what?

Because you have an instance of him failing to?


Crucio:
-A pain curse than two normal wizards could hold up against for hours will somehow cripple the guy who literally laughed with a sword through his chest post-triforce.
-Using this forces the user to keep holding the spell up. Assuming it works, the instance he stops he's dead.
-Triforce isn't too fond of curses.

Fireballs
-..something Link could have taken on 10 minutes into his journey.
-Featless attacks

Energy rip:
-When has he shown this?
-How strong is it?

Possession;
-Is that the one that failed against a 'okay lets actually try to resist' child?
-Dorf has his own possession

What else ya got?


Lol flight? I can see it now. Dorf standing in the battlefield with Tom, for no reason, uselessly flying around in smoky circles like a dodgey firework.

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How will Tom take anything Dorf gives?


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..what?

Because you have an instance of him failing to?


Crucio:
-A pain curse than two normal wizards could hold up against for hours will somehow cripple the guy who literally laughed with a sword through his chest post-triforce.
-Using this forces the user to keep holding the spell up. Assuming it works, the instance he stops he's dead.
-Triforce isn't too fond of curses.

Fireballs
-..something Link could have taken on 10 minutes into his journey.
-Featless attacks

Energy rip:
-When has he shown this?
-How strong is it?

Possession;
-Is that the one that failed against a 'okay lets actually try to resist' child?
-Dorf has his own possession

What else ya got?


Lol flight? I can see it now. Dorf standing in the battlefield with Tom, for no reason, uselessly flying around in smoky circles like a dodgey firework.

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How will Tom take anything Dorf gives?
This is a spell in which it doesn't actually cause physical harm so it isn't the same thing.

If you can't prove he's immune then you have nothing.

Very powerful indeed.

I do not argue possession as it is out of character.

Voldemort can fight with ranged attacks and slaughter him. Acting like flight isn't an advantage to a guy who needs a horse is hysterical.


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Um quan...ganondorf can fly.

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Um quan...ganondorf can fly.
We argue in character so when does Ganondorf in his humanoid form fly ?


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The first time you fight him.

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The first time you fight him.
That was a possessed Zelda not Ganondorf in humanoid form. Did you read my post ?


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No before that.

....are we going to ignore that it took you two years to respond to that post?

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No before that.

....are we going to ignore that it took you two years to respond to that post?
Craxy as it sounds I thought I responded to everything. One post and I got him. When ?


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