Zack Fair
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This is priceless.
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Mar 23rd, 2013 06:27 PM
BloodRain
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Support? It's a real life fact. Any anyone who thinks combat speed = travel speed is retarded.
By your logic, that man would be the world's fastest runner, by far.
Way to ignore everything in my post.
I said you cant say you support that while saying that Haku moving his whole body about 20ft is also combat speed, that you can't compare a kick to movements which Haku is doing.
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Mar 23rd, 2013 06:27 PM
Effect Veiler
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BloodRain
Way to ignore everything in my post.
I usually stop reading a post after I realize that it's based on faulty assumptions and illogic. And simply explain why it's illogical. If I wanted to help retarded kids I'd be a special ed teacher.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by BloodRain
I said you cant say you support that while saying that Haku moving his whole body about 20ft is also combat speed, that you can't compare a kick to movements which Haku is doing.
This has to be one of the worst failure of comprehension I've seen to date.
Mar 23rd, 2013 06:33 PM
NemeBro
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Logic fail.
If he moves out of the path before Haku attacks then Haku will miss.
Support? It's a real life fact. Any anyone who thinks combat speed = travel speed is retarded.
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By your logic, that man would be the world's fastest runner, by far.
*anyone
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Mar 23rd, 2013 06:42 PM
BloodRain
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Effect Veiler
I usually stop reading a post after I realize that it's based on faulty assumptions and illogic. And simply explain why it's illogical. If I wanted to help retarded kids I'd be a special ed teacher.
Except nothing I said had anything to do with being for or against combat speed. Try reading a post next time.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Effect Veiler
This has to be one of the worst failure of comprehension I've seen to date.
Showing a man kicking shows attack speed, which has nothing to do with Haku dashing around, which is whole body movement.
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Mar 23rd, 2013 09:49 PM
Bentley
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by marwash22
Genjutsu works by changing something in your body...
Psychic powers too, Diana has got over those easily.
Also, since nullifying the illusion simply happens... Why do we care how the illusion is made?
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Mar 24th, 2013 06:55 AM
remigio_coldez
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bentley
Psychic powers too, Diana has got over those easily.
Also, since nullifying the illusion simply happens... Why do we care how the illusion is made?
Genjutsu is not a psychic attack, it goes beyond sight, it literally hi-jack someones brains. Some genjutsu victims (non-lethal) are down in the ground and drooling because their brain are virtually in a different world by manipulating it by chakra.
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Mar 25th, 2013 02:28 AM
marwash22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bentley
Psychic powers too, Diana has got over those easily.
Also, since nullifying the illusion simply happens... Why do we care how the illusion is made?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by remigio_coldez
"Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques") are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.
This is often used to create false images or to cause pain from trauma (because the body is led to believe it is in pain); however, there are plenty of other uses depending on the situation. They are not used as often as ninjutsu because they don't physically harm the opponent, but several characters have made themselves well-known for their great prowess with genjutsu like Itachi Uchiha, Kurenai Yūhi, the Second Mizukage and Tayuya. Genjutsu can also be used to manipulate others, similar to brainwashing by feeding the victim illusive suggestions, the primary example being Tobi controlling Yagura. However, there exists at least one genjutsu, Izanagi, that has the opposite effects to normal genjutsu, by changing reality to illusion and vice versa. Genjutsu can also be used for other supplementary purposes such as interrogating an individual by breaking their will."
Ok, this settles it, a Genjutsu is the use of an attackers chakra to mess up the opponents brain that explains the AoE genjutsu, you do not need to have eye contact.
Be glad that I do not include KOTO AMATSUKAMI in his power set he does have Shisui's eye at one point.
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Mar 25th, 2013 02:56 AM
remigio_coldez
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by marwash22
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Mar 25th, 2013 03:26 AM
remigio_coldez
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nephthys
Batman is a better ninja than Itachi.
Eh???
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Mar 25th, 2013 04:48 AM
Bentley
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Again, if the Genjutsu techniques are only altering the chakra flow to disrupt the brain, WW can get through that. I mean, I can try to lobotomize your memory with chakra manipulation, but if your soul is still connected with an external database with the same information my lobotomy wouldn't work at all. Same here, the means don't really matter as the effect is neutered in advance.
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Mar 25th, 2013 05:44 AM
remigio_coldez
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bentley
Again, if the Genjutsu techniques are only altering the chakra flow to disrupt the brain, WW can get through that. I mean, I can try to lobotomize your memory with chakra manipulation, but if your soul is still connected with an external database with the same information my lobotomy wouldn't work at all. Same here, the means don't really matter as the effect is neutered in advance.
You mean WW has a back-up copy of her memory?
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Mar 25th, 2013 05:53 AM
Bentley
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It was just an example using memory to clarify the point
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Mar 25th, 2013 08:43 AM
KAIKAGE
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by remigio_coldez
Eh??? My words exactly.
Mar 25th, 2013 08:54 AM
remigio_coldez
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by KAIKAGE
My words exactly.
No. BATMAN can if you put CIS ON
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Mar 25th, 2013 09:13 AM
Zack Fair
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Yo Batgod owns everyone.
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Mar 25th, 2013 09:23 AM
remigio_coldez
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yo Batgod owns everyone.
Yeah, even Wonder Woman got get pretty face busted.
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Mar 25th, 2013 09:27 AM
Zack Fair
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Batgod would decapitate Itachi with a kick.
Such is the way of the Bat.
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Mar 25th, 2013 11:11 AM
Demonic Phoenix
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Zack Fair
Batgod would decapitate Itachi with a kick.
Such is the way of the Bat.
The King would simply cast Izanami on the Batgod and use his own Batkick against him.
Even the omnipotent Batkick fails before the King.
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