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The King would simply cast Izanami on the Batgod and use his own Batkick against him.
Even the omnipotent Batkick fails before the King.


But BATGOD BATKICKING HIMSELF would create a paradox of omniversal proportion and would lay waste to the entire omniverse. Even the PRESENCE or TOAA could not do anything about it. eek!

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Ok, enough of the BAT JOKES and let us get back to topic. big grin


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But BATGOD BATKICKING HIMSELF would create a paradox of omniversal proportion and would lay waste to the entire omniverse. Even the PRESENCE or TOAA could not do anything about it. eek!

laughing rolling on floor laughing rolling on floor laughing laughing Happy Dance

Ok, enough of the BAT JOKES and let us get back to topic. big grin


Supposed that WW can ward of a Genjutsu, may take 5 to 10 sec. but it will be long enough for ITACHI to summon SUSANOO and stab DIANA with Sword of Totsuka.

then it's GAME OVER.

"The Sword of Totsuka, also known as the Sakegari Longsword (酒刈太刀, Sakegari no Tachi; Literally meaning "Sake Cutter Longsword"), is a variant of the Sword of Kusanagi. It is sheathed in a sake jar; the blade is actually the liquid inside the gourd that is released and shaped, rather than a conventional sword. It is an ethereal weapon with an enchanted blade capable of sealing anything it pierces. Those who are stabbed by the sword are drawn into the jar and trapped in a genjutsu-like "world of drunken dreams" for all eternity; by extension, Itachi also managed to remove the Cursed Seal of Heaven from Sasuke by stabbing and removing Orochimaru from Sasuke's body. It can also cut through objects like a normal blade, thereby giving the wielder great versatility in his attacks. Orochimaru sought the sword for all his life and Zetsu commented that he could never find it."

Basically a BFR attack. wink


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He's better at moving silent and taking people out from the shadows. If Diana can detect Batman while blindfolded, she can detect Itachi.


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He's better at moving silent and taking people out from the shadows. If Diana can detect Batman while blindfolded, she can detect Itachi.


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Supposed that WW can ward of a Genjutsu, may take 5 to 10 sec. but it will be long enough for ITACHI to summon SUSANOO and stab DIANA with Sword of Totsuka.

then it's GAME OVER.

"The Sword of Totsuka, also known as the Sakegari Longsword (酒刈太刀, Sakegari no Tachi; Literally meaning "Sake Cutter Longsword"), is a variant of the Sword of Kusanagi. It is sheathed in a sake jar; the blade is actually the liquid inside the gourd that is released and shaped, rather than a conventional sword. It is an ethereal weapon with an enchanted blade capable of sealing anything it pierces. Those who are stabbed by the sword are drawn into the jar and trapped in a genjutsu-like "world of drunken dreams" for all eternity; by extension, Itachi also managed to remove the Cursed Seal of Heaven from Sasuke by stabbing and removing Orochimaru from Sasuke's body. It can also cut through objects like a normal blade, thereby giving the wielder great versatility in his attacks. Orochimaru sought the sword for all his life and Zetsu commented that he could never find it."

Basically a BFR attack. wink

She doesn't have to ward it off. As long as she's holding or touching the lasso, it'll never affect her. Also, that slow ass sword isn't hitting her to begin with.

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The King would simply cast Izanami on the Batgod and use his own Batkick against him.
Even the omnipotent Batkick fails before the King.
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But BATGOD BATKICKING HIMSELF would create a paradox of omniversal proportion and would lay waste to the entire omniverse. Even the PRESENCE or TOAA could not do anything about it. eek!

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She doesn't have to ward it off. As long as she's holding or touching the lasso, it'll never affect her. Also, that slow ass sword isn't hitting her to begin with.


How could she touch the lasso if she is drooling like a moron. smile


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How could she touch the lasso if she is drooling like a moron. smile


She's normally touching the Lasso, it's on her hip when she isn't using it.


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She's normally touching the Lasso, it's on her hip when she isn't using it.


If it is in her hip then she is not touching it, I read the Bio from the lasso, it insight truth to the one being roped or touching the rope.

Rope Breaking

The fairy tale villainess, Queen of Fables, who has the power to bring any fictional or non-true character to life, and is herself "fictional," had power over the lasso by bringing fictional characters to life and having her non-true minions break it.

To make it short, it is weak against reality warping and EDO TENSEI is reality warping.

I do not of TSUKIYOMI, but IZANAGI is reality warping.


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The lasso works through clothes, Diana doesn't have to strip the opponents in order for it to work, so if it's not floating next to her hip it is touching her.

Also the Queen of Fables example is not precisely reality warping, technically speaking the lasso can be broken by some types of reality warping, but it has to work in a pretty fundamental level. For example, if you can make mathematical equations and fundamental truths false through your reality warping, then you can change truth itself and thus break the lasso. But the lasso has resisted some kinds of reality warping too, so it has to be pretty specific.


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The lasso works through clothes, Diana doesn't have to strip the opponents in order for it to work, so if it's not floating next to her hip it is touching her.

Also the Queen of Fables example is not precisely reality warping, technically speaking the lasso can be broken by some types of reality warping, but it has to work in a pretty fundamental level. For example, if you can make mathematical equations and fundamental truths false through your reality warping, then you can change truth itself and thus break the lasso. But the lasso has resisted some kinds of reality warping too, so it has to be pretty specific.


EDO TENSEI does, MADARA calls it bastardizing the cycle of life and death.

You are alive at the same time you are not. The summoned individual is existing in a world he should not.


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Edo Tensei isn't reality warping. It's re-animating a dead body with it's original soul. This wouldn't exactly be her first rodeo with a re-animated corpse.

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He's better at moving silent and taking people out from the shadows. If Diana can detect Batman while blindfolded, she can detect Itachi.
Maybe if Itachi hid the conventional way but he doesn't need to, he uses genjutsu to hide the real him and creates a smoke screen of illusionary copies of himself, like he did with Naruto when they first met in shippuden. Once a ninja reaches a certain level they no longer need to use the basic and fundamental ninja skills and strategies straight from the text books, the likes of the Akatsuki, Kages, the elders, the sannin, the jinchuuruki and other certain ninja like Sasuke are such ninja.

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Maybe if Itachi hid the conventional way but he doesn't need to, he uses genjutsu to hide the real him and creates a smoke screen of illusionary copies of himself, like he did with Naruto when they first met in shippuden. Once a ninja reaches a certain level they no longer need to use the basic and fundamental ninja skills and strategies straight from the text books, the likes of the Akatsuki, Kages, the elders, the sannin, the jinchuuruki and other certain ninja like Sasuke are such ninja.

How did that stop a Sage Mode Kabuto who can sense Itachi's attack by being blindfolded, and forced Itachi to use a genjustu out of his ass to beat him. I don't see any reason to believe that Itachi could sneak on Wonder WOman. She could fight Zoom or Flash blinded.

If Wonder Woman knows about the genjutsu, she can close her eye. She is immune to nearly all genjutsu except Itachi's Izanami. As shown when Kabuto counter nearly everything Itachi had. She can be immune to all genjutsu once she warps her lasso around her body. The only way Itachi wins is via Wonder Woman not having knowledge.This is assuming Genjustu isn't telepathy. Despite that Telepathy can also disrupt the Brain the same way that Genjutsu does. So I don't buy this Genjutsu isn't telepathy argument either. That's it. If She knows, She can just around her lasso, and she is immune to all illusions. Her Weapons just like Itachi's items. If you believe that Itachi's artifact are true without qusetion, so are Wonder Woman's items.

Wonder Woman faster than Amaterasu, and she is faster than any ninja in the Naruto verse. She can keep up with the Flash, Zoom, or most DC speedster. She has the speed of mercury. Speed of Mecury can keep up with Flash as well. She has the reactions to sidestep Amaterasu like A has done to Sasuke.

Sword of Tosuka has to pierce and touch Wonder Woman. She block due to her wristbrand being unbreakable, and she has a forcefield with it . Not to mention that she is faster than Nagato or Orochimaru. There is no reason to believe that she couldn't counter if she see it. Her lasso is also unbreakable, so She can use that to block as well.


She can obviously bust through Susano'o Skeleton/muscle forms because Wonder Woman hits as hard or even harder than most attacks in Naruto. Not to mention she move object bigger than mountains, or as big. That will take more force than destroying it as well. Raikage/Tsunade can get past early stages of Susanoo, what reasons to believe that Wonder Woman can
t.. Hell Wonder Woman could use her Lasso scoop Itach out of His Legs like Gaara has done to Madara. Susano'o does not protect you legs.

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You are alive at the same time you are not. The summoned individual is existing in a world he should not.

EDO Tensei is a ressurection power, it does not allow to do anything you want. Which is not reality warping, it's not changing fundamental rules of the Naruto verse.

Itachi needed Shisui get out of Edo's control. Lasso has stronger fundamental control than Shisui's eye, and can bind darn near anything that it warps around it. If a ****ing random ninja tags can seal Zombies, why wouldn't the lasso of truth? The lasso stops mind control, and forces them the opponent to be immbolized.

Again the only reason why Itach stands a chance is Genjutsu. If Diana knows, it's a stomp in Diana's favor. Again don't buy this Genjutsu isn't Telepathy crap.


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are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.
This is often used to create false images or to cause pain from trauma (because the body is led to believe it is in pain); however, there are plenty of other uses depending on the situation.


Telepathic in DC can also distrupt you brain, and so that you see something different as well. Hell DC PsionicS can shoot mental energy in a person head, and disrupt the brain in similar way.

Even if it can. Lasso is a godlike artifact created by beings more powerful than anybody in the Naruto verse. It's designed to be ehancement that can see through ilssuion because it must see the truth in EVERYTHING. So Genjutsu cannot work on Diana if she knows.
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Ok, this settles it, a Genjutsu is the use of an attackers chakra to mess up the opponents brain that explains the AoE genjutsu, you do not need to have eye contact.

Except that Itachi's genjutsu have different mechanics than the random handbooks states. Handbooks can be wrong on certain things. Just like Madara might not have Amaterasu like Sasuke. Itachi's genjutsu are based on sight, and he cannot control the oppotent with see his hands/eye. He would have to sacrifice his eyes if he wanted a blinded person to see his genjutsu. Kabuto/Deidara/Gai have practiced their ability to avoid genjutsu in similar ways.

It doesn't matter, I could post a link of Wonder Woman wrapping her body in Gail Simone's run. Where she used it to counter telepathics, or see through their bull****.

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Be glad that I do not include KOTO AMATSUKAMI in his power set he does have Shisui's eye at one point.

He doesn't have Shisui Eye because he gave it to Naruto. He used it to save himself from EDO Tensei. Shisui Eye works once in a decade, and there is no proof that Itachi would be willing to use it. If this is apparnelty OOC fight, then Wonder Woman speedblitzs the shit out of Itachi then. Or we could just give Wonder Woman the godwaves to be fair. I mean since Itachi Susano'o can reflect ANYTHING....right? Like a true Super Nova attack for example...since the handbook/wikis are NEVER WRONG(they have been wrong before you know).


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"EDO Tensei is a ressurection power, it does not allow to do anything you want. Which is not reality warping, it's not changing fundamental rules of the Naruto verse."

How is disrupting the law of life and death "not changing fundamental laws"? smile

Not only does you pull a soul in the PURE world but also provide it with a body that virtually is indestructible.


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"If Wonder Woman knows about the genjutsu, she can close her eye. She is immune to nearly all genjutsu except Itachi's Izanami."

So, you agree that she can be tagged. In this case, Sword of Totsuka is not needed.

After that he call Jiraiya to finish her off.smile


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EDO TENSEI does, MADARA calls it bastardizing the cycle of life and death.

You are alive at the same time you are not. The summoned individual is existing in a world he should not.


Edo Tensei doesn't classify in any way or form as reality warping. Because reality warping has to affect the fundamental rules of reality, and Edo Tensei actually follows rules -contracts-, it's more of a magic technique than reality warping.


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