I heard years ago that Batman is able to lift 600lbs due to a serum he made to make him peak human. But even so I seen one Silverback lift himself up a tree with one arm and I think he weighted 400+. A Chimp alone can rip someones face off thats Michael Myers level strength right there.Lets say Joker captures Batman and drops him down 10 yards from the gorillas they heard him and are moving in.
If a human that has an intelligence around the level of Ed Witten and athletic ability to match cannot out smart a extremely large amount on gorillas into killing themselves then it's someone else in the suit. Plus he solves problems under constraints all the time without fire arms. At a certain point the intelligence completely dwarfs the strength aspect and it would show in batman most likely not even throwing a punch.
in all physical aspects he's peak human, with no gadgets I don't hink he would bet some of the people he does, sure he could 'make' some makeshift weapons on the go but he's losing this indefinatley
I heard or read that he created a serum many years ago like a chemist to increase his strength to 600lbs weither its actually happened I have no proof.
you def heard wrong its been stated many times that he's at peak human in all physical aspects or just above, which is why he is considered by many comic book fans to be the best because he's just a human taking on and defeating the likes of killer croc, grundy etc but 30 gorrilas with no prep, no weapons or gadgets, in the jungle its came over the second a gorlla go in for the kill
So all of Cap's strength feats are consistent PIS, then?
I love Cap as much as the next guy, the super soldier serum shouldn't turn him into Luke Cage +, yet all of his many, many feats of super human strength, durability, and speed get written off as "It's the SSS, it made him >>>>> street", despite the fact sometimes he pulls off crap Spidey can't do.
Bats, on the other hand, gets treated as baseline human half the time. As in, baseline real world human, not comic book peak human..
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Peak Human is what they say but yet in comic books it shows him doing things beyond peak human like hurt a very superhuman villain with a kick or a punch. Comics now a days rarely stay with the stats given.
depends on what gear and suit he's got, and its usually for plots sake, I mean he may be able to dodge a few gorrilas but no way is he beating even one
No. And neither for that record are all of Batman's feats PIS.
That doesn't mean neither of them have PIS feats or can even be possessed of consistent PIS feats.
Cap's high end feats are certainly absurd as all hell, but his baseline feats are well within his established powers due to the Super Soldier Serum. He's been superhuman in both portrayal, description of powers, and feats for years now. Batman's not.
Not sure if this was canon or just in the movie, but bane broke batman, I seriously doubt bane in the movie was stronger than a silverback gorrila if he's the same size an build in the comic, then I have no doubts a silver back would tear bats in half