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No, they don't get all the feats.

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Quasar has knocked down a watcher...
Created a shield that couldn't be broken by the combined forces of infinity watch and the avengers (first page I thread) until he took his attention away.

His quantum bands have an infinite power source and only run out if he's in a dimension or area that blocks his access to that power source... So his bands aren't burning out while the rings will...

He was able to defeat maelstrom right after maelstrom was messing around with celestials, killed an abstract, then picked a fight with an ig wielding thanos.

Quasars supposedly weak constructs are in the early phase of his career not his later. Basically issues 30+ of his own series...

When quasar was rocked by annihilus the first time it was because the ccr contains negative zone energy the opposite of the em spectrum Elvis relies on

Wendell has been shown to manipulate others energy constructs... And as dr light has shown, the ring constructs can be controlled because of that...

Quasar even rocks body armor some times that's enhances his durability...

And when he was an energy construct has "hulked out" before..

Using pis against Wendell or early showings is a bad way of saying Mongol wins...
Though I give Wendell 7-8 /10 here


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Quasar has knocked down a watcher...
Created a shield that couldn't be broken by the combined forces of infinity watch and the avengers (first page I thread) until he took his attention away.

His quantum bands have an infinite power source and only run out if he's in a dimension or area that blocks his access to that power source... So his bands aren't burning out while the rings will...

He was able to defeat maelstrom right after maelstrom was messing around with celestials, killed an abstract, then picked a fight with an ig wielding thanos.

Quasars supposedly weak constructs are in the early phase of his career not his later. Basically issues 30+ of his own series...

When quasar was rocked by annihilus the first time it was because the ccr contains negative zone energy the opposite of the em spectrum Elvis relies on

Wendell has been shown to manipulate others energy constructs... And as dr light has shown, the ring constructs can be controlled because of that...

Quasar even rocks body armor some times that's enhances his durability...

And when he was an energy construct has "hulked out" before..

Using pis against Wendell or early showings is a bad way of saying Mongol wins...
Though I give Wendell 7-8 /10 here
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When has Dr. Light controlled the yellow ring? And Hal has resisted Dr. Light along with Kyle, IIRC.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
When has Dr. Light controlled the yellow ring? And Hal has resisted Dr. Light along with Kyle, IIRC.


When hasn't he been able to manipulate a yellow lantern construct. He's always been able to manipulate constructs. And when has he not been able to do so?

In any case your better bet is to argue that "light" isn't part of the electro magnetic spectrum so quasar can't affect it....

You don't even really argue against my post but just raise a nuhuh argument?


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When hasn't he been able to manipulate a yellow lantern construct. He's always been able to manipulate constructs. And when has he not been able to do so?

In any case your better bet is to argue that "light" isn't part of the electro magnetic spectrum so quasar can't affect it....

You don't even really argue against my post but just raise a nuhuh argument?


I'm just asking when has Light done so with a yellow ring not that he can't. Then again, he has failed against Hal and Kyle a few times, so having the ability to absorb/manipulate energy/light doesn't equal an automatic win.

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Quasar could always drain the energy from Mongul. And he can't return the favor


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I have doubts that he can do it in time before Mongul punches his face in. A Mongul who took on 5 GL's. Or at all.

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I have doubts that he can do it in time before Mongul punches his face in. A Mongul who took on 5 GL's. Or at all.
yea they just don't give quasar the feats they should.

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yea they just don't give quasar the feats they should.
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Well his shield and armor constructs have allowed him to take hits from Adam warlock and thing to no effect.

He's siphoned power cosmic directly from surfer. Doing to Adam warlock and jack of hearts to the point they were instantly immibilized.

Surfers saving grace is he constantly recharges drawing in energy from stars around him... A ring doesn't


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A ring still has a lot more power than JOH and Mongul isn't just going to stand there letting Quasar draining his ring. It's anyones guess how long it will do or even if Quasar can do it in the first place.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
A ring still has a lot more power than JOH and Mongul isn't just going to stand there letting Quasar draining his ring. It's anyones guess how long it will do or even if Quasar can do it in the first place.


Rings don't ever run outta juice? They often run out...

And quasar doesn't even have to be directly attacking to siphon off energy. As shown against surfer Phoenix and fireflies he can drain while attacking and defending himself.

He could literally encase Mongol in a shield or bind Him as he hard drains him or just slow drains him. Even fire lords power cosmic dissipates against a quasar who is prepared for his attacks...


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They do, but I have doubts he can do it to the emotional spectrum. Mongul took it to several GL's at once. I don't see Quasar doing that and I don't see Mongul being trapped inside a force shield for long,.

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They do, but I have doubts he can do it to the emotional spectrum. Mongul took it to several GL's at once. I don't see Quasar doing that and I don't see Mongul being trapped inside a force shield for long,.
How would Mongul jr feel about a force bubble growing within his anus? big grin Oh, I mean "brain".

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sigh. All this talk about how quasar won't be able to manipulate the green lantern rings...

stated over and over quasar can manipulate em energies...

And..Green Lantern Rebirth #3... tells us that power ring rings convert willpower into electromagnetic energy for them to use...

And just a hunch... but i'm guessing a weaponer is using the same basis when he makes yellow rings...


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It's emotional spectrum. It's something more than EM energy.

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Originally posted by Horrificus
How would Mongul jr feel about a force bubble growing within his anus? big grin Oh, I mean "brain".


Mongul got torn apart a few times in that arc. Bzzt blew right through his head and he also got his limbs torn off by that creature, yet he still survived and fought on. He was a complete beast in that SC arc. Usually, I'd give the fight to a competent Quasar, but Mongul with the rings was total bad ass.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
It's emotional spectrum. It's something more than EM energy.


.... So in the gl/silver surfer crossover when norrin absorbed all of the gl energies because he's a cosmic battery... That was because....

Emotion is converted to energy. That energy can be manipulated and absorbed.


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.... So in the gl/silver surfer crossover when norrin absorbed all of the gl energies because he's a cosmic battery... That was because....

Emotion is converted to energy. That energy can be manipulated and absorbed.


It's been stated numerous times throughout GL history that it's unique energy. Even in John's run as well. I'm sure Quasar can drain some of it, but Mongul, Hal, Sinestro, etc.., can will him to stop. Just like Hal has done so in the past.

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