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Even if it can be drained, mongul can still rely on his strength and durability.

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Even if it can be drained, mongul can still rely on his strength and durability.


true. thats all i've been saying. then it becomes how good of a combatant is mongul (very...) against quasar.

however if kyle can knock out mongul with a freight train construct, i imagine quasar should have similar chances.


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true. thats all i've been saying. then it becomes how good of a combatant is mongul (very...) against quasar.

however if kyle can knock out mongul with a freight train construct, i imagine quasar should have similar chances.


Depends on which Mongul we're getting. Mongul during the SC epic, took it to multiple GL's, inculding Kyle and Guy, IIRC. He can also take it to Superman and Hal Jordan.

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These were the GL's Mongul faced. I think if it wasn't for Mother Mercy, the GL's would have lost. I'll need to re read it again, but Tomasi made Mongul into a team buster during that arc.

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These were the GL's Mongul faced. I think if it wasn't for Mother Mercy, the GL's would have lost. I'll need to re read it again, but Tomasi made Mongul into a team buster during that arc.

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I understand that he is VERY bad. I am not taking anything from Mongul Jr.
But, why does that trump this and Quasars other monster feats?:

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Mongul Jr. would not be able to do anything remotely like this:

Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Wonder Man, Wolverine, the Thing and many, many more, all going insane, bloodlusted, trying to get through to the sweet gooey filling inside of Quasar's shield.

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Here, we see Power Gem Drax, on the inside, pounding at the Hulk, with no effect on the shield.
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Thanos finally tips the scales and adds his power to all of the rest, together, they succeed in breaking the shield.
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Still, Quasar's power is able to keep Thanos from crushing the heads of Hulk and Thing together, right after he makes his statement about being "strength personified".
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Shutting down a Watcher:
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I understand that he is VERY bad. I am not taking anything from Mongul Jr.
But, why does that trump this and Quasars other monster feats?:

What other monster feats?

In his entire time on panel I can think of only two high showings :
1) During the Infinity War when his dome held off the heroes till Thanos and crew shattered it
2) Vs that Watcher during the Journey into Mystery story arc in his comic

There's a third one involving Galactus but I don't remember the context of the scan.

So I'll see you those high showings and raise you these "average" showings:
1) Gladiator flexing and breaking out of a quantum construct Quasar formed and fortified. Then crushing Quasar's arm through his Quantum Aura and threatening to rip it off if he attempted to BFR Gladiator into the Quantum Zone. This was during the Starblast story arc.
2) An Imperial Guardsman, Neutron, humiliating Quasar and Her combined, forcing Quasar to BFR him into the Q-Zone
3) Four scrubby Shi'ar Guardsmen : Manta, Hussar, Impulse, Magique destroyed one of Quasar's quantum domes. Of those four, only Impulse has any kind of attack worth mentioning. And how powerful is it; He and Cycolps double KOed each other when they fought. This was during Operation Galactic Storm.
4) Masterson Thor crushing a quantum bubble that Quasar put around Mjolnir and hurling Mjolnir so hard that Quasar actually felt pain attempting to shield himself from it.

Any CL100 brick that can avoid a BFR into the Quantum Zone should destroy Quasar given his history.


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What other monster feats?

In his entire time on panel I can think of only two high showings :
1) During the Infinity War when his dome held off the heroes till Thanos and crew shattered it
2) Vs that Watcher during the Journey into Mystery story arc in his comic

There's a third one involving Galactus but I don't remember the context of the scan.

So I'll see you those high showings and raise you these "average" showings:
1) Gladiator flexing and breaking out of a quantum construct Quasar formed and fortified. Then crushing Quasar's arm through his Quantum Aura and threatening to rip it off if he attempted to BFR Gladiator into the Quantum Zone. This was during the Starblast story arc.
2) An Imperial Guardsman, Neutron, humiliating Quasar and Her combined, forcing Quasar to BFR him into the Q-Zone
3) Four scrubby Shi'ar Guardsmen : Manta, Hussar, Impulse, Magique destroyed one of Quasar's quantum domes. Of those four, only Impulse has any kind of attack worth mentioning. And how powerful is it; He and Cycolps double KOed each other when they fought. This was during Operation Galactic Storm.
4) Masterson Thor crushing a quantum bubble that Quasar put around Mjolnir and hurling Mjolnir so hard that Quasar actually felt pain attempting to shield himself from it.

Any CL100 brick that can avoid a BFR into the Quantum Zone should destroy Quasar given his history.
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Kyle and Hal have uber feats like that as well, but Mongul with multiple SC rings puts him slightly above high herald, IMO.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
Kyle and Hal have uber feats like that as well, but Mongul with multiple SC rings puts him slightly above high herald, IMO.
how many rings does he have? (not including toe-rings, belly-button rings or anklets)

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I think he had them on all fingers. I believe he wanted one from each corp. LOL@ toe rings. laughing out loud

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Originally posted by Golgo13
LOL@ toe rings. laughing out loud
Yeah. laughing I went to far with that. hehe. That kind of thing could ruin a character.
Look at what happened to Northstar because of his corset. OK, I made that up. He's still as popular as ever! roll eyes (sarcastic)

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The Thor one is the only one that comes to mind. In that quasar prevented masters on from reaching his hammer and Eric had to try to force the bubble open... It wasn't a quick break also it wasn't a shield that was constantly concentrated on by quasar. Quasars shields while incredibly durable become less so when he stops concentrating on them.

But the other three feats I don't recall right now so ill have to see if my come up in my quasar issues.

When quasar and hit Mongul with a train it was Kyle and superman vs mongul. Mongul has never been a lightweight.

Oh and another offhand feat of quasar is him absorbing the entire ego entity into himself when ego attempted to overtake the earth.


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