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Originally posted by juggerman
We see a magical attack that strips away his immortality. It was never stated that it affected his soul in any way.



He's not tho.... And even if you consider him to be, he was never as durable or impervious like Imhotep was. Bullets could harm Voldemort too yet Imhotep laughed them off.
You can pretend that wasn't his soul that was carted away but we both know you'd be lying to yourself. Imhotep is resistant to mortal weapons not immortal ones or magic as clearly seen. If you think a bulletin is comparable to magic designed to kill then you need direction.

Voldemort wins. Clearly.


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Originally posted by siriuswriter
Imhotep HAS NO SOUL BECAUSE HE'S DEAD. He is an evil SPIRIT. When he mutates into human form, it's just a shell. No human-based spells are going to work on him.

And my paragraph on different types of magic is irrelevant?
You can try all day to compare an apple to an orange but the only thing you're going to get is that they're both round fruit.
Speculation. You're just making up human type spells. Based on your logic no human magic can work against him based on a human using the power. I get that you lack common sense but don't try to project your own inadequacies onto others. Poor form.

Avada Kedavra kills. Specific magic while other specific magic has worked and easily against the Egyptian.


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Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
See, you think Crucio will actually work on Voldemort. Dude's gonna have mummies popping out of the walls from all angles.
Crucio will work on Imhotep. No, the mummies are also pathetic and Vldemort would easily destroy them.


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Quanchi, have you even seen the applicable film/s?
I actually understood them unlike yourself, kid.


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All Voldemort has to do is show up with a cat, no?


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Magic barely works on undead beings in the HP universe like Dementors and Inferi. The chances of it working on Imhotep are slim to none.

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All Voldemort has to do is show up with a cat, no?


If Imhotep is at full power it won't work.


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Oh, yeah. That's right. I assume he is at full power here then?


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Originally posted by quanchi112
You can pretend that wasn't his soul that was carted away but we both know you'd be lying to yourself. Imhotep is resistant to mortal weapons not immortal ones or magic as clearly seen. If you think a bulletin is comparable to magic designed to kill then you need direction.

Voldemort wins. Clearly.


You can pretend it WAS his soul but nothing at all backs up this claim of yours. It looks like him but all that was stated was it turned him mortal. It was his immortal self being carted away. Unless of course you believe that simply having a soul makes one immortal...

Nope.

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Magic barely works on undead beings in the HP universe like Dementors and Inferi. The chances of it working on Imhotep are slim to none.


Good point here. thumb up


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Magic barely works on undead beings in the HP universe like Dementors and Inferi. The chances of it working on Imhotep are slim to none.
Wrong. Albus easily defeated a shit ton of undead despite being weakened. Dementors are also easily dispatched by skilled wizards.


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You can pretend it WAS his soul but nothing at all backs up this claim of yours. It looks like him but all that was stated was it turned him mortal. It was his immortal self being carted away. Unless of course you believe that simply having a soul makes one immortal...

Nope.



Good point here. thumb up
Losing his soul is was made him mortal. We see him later lose his powers in another manner yet his soul wasn't taken. His immortal self is his soul just like Voldemort had to split his immortal soul into Horcruxes.

You know I'm right.


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Wrong. Albus easily defeated a shit ton of undead despite being weakened. Dementors are also easily dispatched by skilled wizards.


There are specific spells that work on them and that's it. Hell one of those spells doesn't even harm the Dementor it just "feeds" them so they go away


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Losing his soul is was made him mortal. We see him later lose his powers in another manner yet his soul wasn't taken. His immortal self is his soul just like Voldemort had to split his immortal soul into Horcruxes.

You know I'm right.


Nope. He lost his power. In the second one he retained some but not enough to actuallt help. There was no mention of his "soul" at all

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There are specific spells that work on them and that's it. Hell one of those spells doesn't even harm the Dementor it just "feeds" them so they go away
Albus' brother easily defeated them as has Harry before. That's magic being hella effective so his statement is ludicrous. Like I said both races of creatures have been dealt with in mass exodus fashion so saying magic doesn't work on them is hilarious.


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Nope. He lost his power. In the second one he retained some but not enough to actuallt help. There was no mention of his "soul" at all

Nah son
You're the kind of viewer who can't read between the lines. If something isn't explained you cannot function whereas I can. We see his immortal soul taken from his body making him mortal. In the second film he was just depowered in a different fashion to make the confrontation against the Scorpion King a fair fight.

Voldemort wins, easily.


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Albus' brother easily defeated them as has Harry before. That's magic being hella effective so his statement is ludicrous. Like I said both races of creatures have been dealt with in mass exodus fashion so saying magic doesn't work on them is hilarious.


Most magic does not work on them. They resist all but spells specifically designed to combat them particularly. There is no HP spell designed to combat Imhotep specifically.

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You're the kind of viewer who can't read between the lines. If something isn't explained you cannot function whereas I can. We see his immortal soul taken from his body making him mortal. In the second film he was just depowered in a different fashion to make the confrontation against the Scorpion King a fair fight.

Voldemort wins, easily.


And you're the type of viewer that makes things up as he goes along to fit into his own idea of what "should" happen. His immortality was taken away. Not his soul

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Most magic does not work on them. They resist all but spells specifically designed to combat them particularly. There is no HP spell designed to combat Imhotep specifically.



And you're the type of viewer that makes things up as he goes along to fit into his own idea of what "should" happen. His immortality was taken away. Not his soul

Nope

Magic works on them just fine as proven in the films.

There doesn't need to be a spell designed to combat him since we have seen magic clearly work against him.

Souls are immortal not the bodies. We see his soul leave and in the second film his soul isn't taken away just depowered. You're cornered since we see his powers taken in part 2.

Soul leaves body when Voldemort hits him with the killing curse.


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Magic works on them just fine as proven in the films.

There doesn't need to be a spell designed to combat him since we have seen magic clearly work against him.

Souls are immortal not the bodies. We see his soul leave and in the second film his soul isn't taken away just depowered. You're cornered since we see his powers taken in part 2.

Soul leaves body when Voldemort hits him with the killing curse.


Specific magic works on them. I see you are intent on ignoring this part

There does since the only magic that ever worked on him was magic specific intended to strip him of his power, by the very being that gave him his power to begin with.

I is not cornered since the second movie proves his "soul" is not the source of his power since, according to you, it was taken in the first.

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I know Anck Su Namun's soul was put into Meela Nais' body, so it is possible for Imhotep to have a soul.


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