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Originally posted by BloodRain
'He wins cause he beat a featless monster' is barely supporting. Though saying that you've finally started debating this by stating evidence.

So I'm right that noting is showing its power? Could probably calc the force of the fall, likely to be mid-building level though. And again based purely on its size and damage shown like you said, wall approaching low-building level in attack. Something else thats low-building level in force are LoZ bombs.. force that high ranking mooks can tank.

So we have White>Saruman>Grey, with Grey being roughly even with the Balrog, whose feats are surviving a fall whilst hitting the rocky walls and breaking rocks (for physical feats). Though this speaks little for his magical strength.

Quit whining. If you don't want to debate things than don't, definitely not right after posting feats like asked :T

He isn't featless and destroys large rocks and falls thousands of feet yet you claim he doesn't have any feats.

Speculation.

Gandalf used magical protection and took a day or so along with a lightning moved sword strike to finally beat him. laughing out loud

Gandalf's superior wins here.

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You keep conceding.

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Didnt Grey die from falling? Anyhow, be interesting to see what Gandalf will do here, mainly because I've seen people say he's far more powerful than I saw in the movie.

Though from the top tiers in the movie I don't see anything overpowering Ganondorf.

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He isn't featless and destroys large rocks and falls thousands of feet yet you claim he doesn't have any feats.
Speculation.
Gandalf used magical protection and took a day or so along with a lightning moved sword strike to finally beat him.
Gandalf's superior wins here.

Balrogs feats are speculation and we can't get a number on them? Alright then, its featless by your word :P

But to be nice... The Balrog is 7m tall so would weigh 5 tons. With a terminal velocity calc, the max speed they could be falling is 90m/s. If they landed on solid ground they'd hit with 18 megajoules, Small Building level. Though I believed they fell in water which would slightly lessen the impact. Just saying :T

Yeah I noticed the shield and lightning-gathering, not much else on his magic power afaik.

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Grey didn't die from falling. Yet another pro Zelda ignoramus post endorsed by yourself.

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Maybe he doesn't know enough about the differences between movie and book Gandalf and just went with what he knew? Better to use a version you know about than one you don't.

Ganondorf wins btw.

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Quit hiding.

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Didnt Grey die from falling? Anyhow, be interesting to see what Gandalf will do here, mainly because I've seen people say he's far more powerful than I saw in the movie.

Though from the top tiers in the movie I don't see anything overpowering Ganondorf.

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Ignorance.

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It is funny, because book Gandalf could have made this an okay fight.

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Concession accepted.

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Ganondorf.

Even before he obtained the Triforce of power Ganondorf was already a feared and powerful sorcerer. I would even say he was on par with Gandald the Grey. Add to that the triforce of Power and he is near god like. I wont even go with the whole 'can only be killed by the master sword' on this one. Gandalf wouldnt be able to touch Ganondorf. Ganon is like the Balrog with all its power folded 3 times and put in a man. Gandalf died the first time, he will die again.

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You keep conceding.

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Movie Gandalf is meh, and can't really do anything to Dorf.

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Care to prove it ?

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Movie Gandalf is meh, and can't really do anything to Dorf.

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Please prove it.

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Movie Gandalf is meh, and can't really do anything to Dorf.

NOt having to read your posts is nice.

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NOt having to read your posts is nice.

You can't prove it.

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Movie Gandalf is meh, and can't really do anything to Dorf.

Post.

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