Funny thing is order 66 almost completely eradicated the Jedi order. The remaining Jedi had to go into hiding despite being a power in the galaxy yet were crushed in a day. Order 66 >>>>Jedi order.
What context? Jango was shooting him, couldn't get past the saber defence, and got his head cut off.
It's no different than the lack of context you tried to use when you pitted a no name jedi in the same situation and tried to pass it off as a point. I counterd, deal with it.
I can quote you however I want to. Quit losing your patience and swearing at me. You're acting like Anakin. Remain calm.
Khan used his intelligence to attack Federation leaders in the case of this emergency. Vader was following orders against Palpatine's allies not someone who tried blackmailing Khan for his superior mind in all manner of war applications.
I compared both going into combat and how efficient both men were. Khan wins this comparison hands down. He took down warriors not former allied leaders to Palpatine under the guise of friendship. 1-0 in favor of Khan.
Eu isn't fair game in the movie versus. Try again. Supply an actual clip of evidence or else concede the point. You cry about evidence yet provide none yourself.
Dooku was hands down. He also crushed Obi in combat and briefly stalemated Yoda. That is simply beyond Obi as well as lasting longer than a few minutes against Dooku.
This isn't just two instances it is the creators viewpoints on his personality. Sorry, he created Vader and its a fact the guy couldn't control his emotions. It close him initially against Dooku and the battle against Obi. Two combat situations in which he made critical mistakes despite Obi berating him for his stupidity and overconfidence. Movie statements from the creator and evidence>>your fanboyism.
You made a claim about a theory that I easily proved wrong. Stick to the topic. Don't be a sore loser.
Windu is eh greatest Jedi and even he had to separate himself against Jango when he employed the flamethrower. One could argue the only reason Jango lost was due to the beast shorting his jet pack out. Context. His tech didn't work against Windu not through their interactions but through the beast knocking him around.
Vader lost his cool the entire movie. The entire movie sets the tone for his fall from grace. George Lucas slaps his cock into the viewers face with this obvious plot point yet you continue to deny it. You keep making excuses for canon showings. Sorry, he is overconfident and an emotional mess supported by Lucas himself via youtube clip. I backed my stance while you haven't.
Save your silly little threats and stick to the topic, Anakin.
I provided facts and creator supporter statements. You have done nothing of the sort.
Prove it. Post evidence. Quit avoiding debating with evidence. I have been more than forthcoming with backing my iron clad claims.
Those are Kirk's own words. Khan had both crews at his mercy singlehandedly. Fact.
So ? They were aware of his presence after the shots and still greatly outnumbered him. They had more ships than Khan even. I said they weren't able to best him despite him being out in the open. He's that accurate and good with a weapon unlike Anakin. The guy has been captured more than a few times by laughable opposition.
It is a ship used for combat despite your wailing. Provide evidence and quit just spouting your unbacked opinion.
Your posts are negligently ineligible... If you can't quote properly, then you've already conceded. Now do it again, or you lose the debate, and you get a spam report.
Again, I care not for your threats. I responded and broke your post down chronologically from top to bottom. If you do not counter my well thought out supported arguments then you concede. You don't post any evidence just your unsupported opinion anywho. Another day another concession.
Okay.. so you admit you DON'T KNOW whether it can block it or not correct? Let's say for example that it can block it... would you then say Khan has no chance here?
Also, who has faster speed.. reflexes and jumping ability.. Anakin or Khan?
I said I couldn't prove it since the same blast doesn't exist in the Star Wars universe not that I didn't know based on the evidence what would happen.
No, I wouldn't. Jango and his crappy clones eradicated the entire Jedi order due to crushing them. Jango himself only lost to the best Jedi swordsman after his equipment was damaged by a beast.
Khan has superior marksman ship and a greater weapon than Anakin has ever blocked so it won't matter. Khan is stronger, tactically far smarter, and has ranged weapons. No brainer. Khan wins.
OMG Your actually going to carry this on when I've shown clear evidence of Jedi dodging lasers.
You really are a big time troll.
I'm not talking about any old Jedi here (who btw we're all betrayed and taken completely by surprise). I'm talking about the elite, Yoda, Mace, Skywalker.
LOL, so your argument is Yoda wasn't taken completely by surprise and was alerted to who his enemy might be. Great
He still dodged them before they could attack.
LOL Oh it's the Clones now who were unsuspecting!
The clones who went to sneak up on him and shoot him from behind, THEY WERE THE ONES WHO WERE UNSUSPECTING!
Fact is he clearly dodged WHEN HE WAS about to get shot. Because his Force Pre-cog clearly warned him.
Exactly. Khan won't be capable of getting a shot in.
Lol your making a complete fool out of yourself. I've just shown he can dodge laser blasts with the combination of his Pre-Cog and Agility.
You've lost brah. Deal and move on.
Hahaha, There was a whole army of those droids. Khan wouldn't last too long against them.
And clearly you missed the Destroyer Droids at then end. They shoot at a much faster rate than Khan, move faster and have more guns than Khan.
Yet Yoda was deflecting firepower from several of them at once. That's much much more difficult than deflecting Khan's guns. And evading Khan's guns would just be all too easy.
Your not very good at this are you?
He was beating Spock one one one!
Spock is a complete joke to a Jedi of Skywalker's caliber. And he was giving Khan the fight of his life.
All Spock needed was back up from Uhura and that's it, Khan was a gonner
You've lost brah. Get on with your life. Khan is not match for Jedi as great as Skywalker and Yoda
misrepresenting evidence isn't debating its actually the opposite. It demonstrates one of two things. 1. You either are purposefully doing so or 2. You are unable to comprehend the scene.
Precog. It is amusing how you all cite it to your fanboys heart content and then ignore it like mad when I rub your nose in it. The one Jedi has time to deflect blasts but is easily overwhelmed.
The video also shows Obi caught off guard by order 66. Anakin was on the other side of it and Windu had already been killed. Hooray for those badass Jedi. One night and they are almost completely eradicated.
Yoda also never jumps to avoid any laser fire he is moving around so they can't get a fix on him. A moving target is much harder to hit than a stationary one.
We also clearly see Yoda against the clones. He isn't dodging lasers he is deflecting and moving around. To avoid how Jedi don't dodge lasers while falsely proclaiming they are faster is hilariously fanboyish.
Yoda moved before they attacked. They weren't expecting him to move at all. That is exactly what happened so don't you dare lie or try to misrepresent another video.
You can't dodge an attack if they haven't attacked you absolute fool. He attacked before they fired. Simple.
The clones believed he was completely unaware of their intent to they were caught off guard. That is exactly what happened due to Yoda's connection to the losses suffered previously in the clip to the Jedi order.
1. They aren't in this close proximity. 2. Khan won't be waiting to strike like these two clones. 3. You can't ignore the circumstances of the situation and compare it to this versus thread in an effort to paint a false picture.
No, you proved he can move and be elusive making it more difficult to hit a moving target as opposed to a stationary one. I never disagreed with that stance but you aren't intelligent enough to assess a simple youtube link or lied about it. Take your pick.
Khan took out an entire squadron of Klingons as well as subdued the Enterprise crew in his film. Khan would take them out more efficiently than Yoda could possibly dream of with his laser sword.
He didn't deflect several blasts at once. He deflected their attacks separately but they don't possess khan's firepower or accuracy. Nothing as wide as the über gun blast. This is also about Vader not Yoda.
Yoda couldn't tank the nerve pinch or take him hand to hand. Neither could Anakin. Khan was not armed and was dominating someone well above human level strength. Khan is armed in this thread. When he was armed he had Kirk, Spock, and his gf at his mercy.
Anakin along with Obi were also taken prisoner in Rots at the beginning. Not very impressive me thinks.
I never said it had anything to do with Khan. It does cloud his victory since another beast damaged his equipment thus taking away from Windu's victory since he didn't damage his equipment.
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