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Data vs. Khan
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Just as the human woman shot him it proves he is not that fast nor are his reactions accurately as fast you claim unless you cherry pick a few scenes.


No Quan, all that proves is that he didn't care about .45 calibur bullets from a 20th century weapon that did him no harm. But go ahead, claim that he couldn't dodge them, despite him didging superior weaponry elsewhere... roll eyes (sarcastic)

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We see him do so here with everything on the line. You want to make excuses. Not how we do things on kmc.


we've seen him in... what, 2 fight scenes, 1 he gets taken by a surprise attack, and one where he has his emo chip on and flesh injury, pain which was a brand new sensation to him. Way to cherry pick, you dishonest prick.

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Watch the film. We see him run and move far faster than any human. The only one who can kind of keep up is someone far superior to a human in the half human/half Vulcan Spock. Kirk could not even harm Khan in any way. Khan is superior to humans in every way. Its a basic point of the film which escapes you. Not surprising.


Not a single piece of evidence presented, just assertions from you. Please, do go on braying.

Unless and until you can post evidence and actually QUANTIFY it, then you have no case to make demands of anyone.

Deja Vu if I have ever had it.... This is the exact same circus wheel you have been spinning since the Akuma vs Shao Kahn thread... Demanding evidence, but providing none, and not bothering to do any research.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I did not choose one showing here. The borg's entire portrayal in that film was slow. Data was slow in the entire film as well. If you want to say Data is very fast how many feats would you say accurately represents that let's say in a percentage.


The borg exist outside of that movie you raging dolt. As does Data.

And considering Data has displayed vastly superhuman speed (among other capabilities) in just about every episode he has been in, I could give you figures that vary wildly, especially when you factor in your Quan Logic regarding what is and is not applicable like you did earlier with his keypad typing.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Being dishonest during a debate is your thing not mine. Unlike you I debate and bring forth evidence.


Bukllshit, you post clips and then arbitrarily say things that never occurred and proceed to make shit up to suit your own ends. That's the very definition of dishonest debating practice.


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Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No Quan, all that proves is that he didn't care about .45 calibur bullets from a 20th century weapon that did him no harm. But go ahead, claim that he couldn't dodge them, despite him didging superior weaponry elsewhere... roll eyes (sarcastic)



we've seen him in... what, 2 fight scenes, 1 he gets taken by a surprise attack, and one where he has his emo chip on and flesh injury, pain which was a brand new sensation to him. Way to cherry pick, you dishonest prick.



Not a single piece of evidence presented, just assertions from you. Please, do go on braying.

Unless and until you can post evidence and actually QUANTIFY it, then you have no case to make demands of anyone.

Deja Vu if I have ever had it.... This is the exact same circus wheel you have been spinning since the Akuma vs Shao Kahn thread... Demanding evidence, but providing none, and not bothering to do any research.



The borg exist outside of that movie you raging dolt. As does Data.

And considering Data has displayed vastly superhuman speed (among other capabilities) in just about every episode he has been in, I could give you figures that vary wildly, especially when you factor in your Quan Logic regarding what is and is not applicable like you did earlier with his keypad typing.



Bukllshit, you post clips and then arbitrarily say things that never occurred and proceed to make shit up to suit your own ends. That's the very definition of dishonest debating practice.
No, it proves he was tagged. Your opinion is not a fact nor can you prove it. You really rarely ever prove anything. We see the Borg tag him using zombie like speed and you ignore that as well. Awful.

Quit insulting and raging out. You want to ignore 95 percent of his showings on screen to support your views regarding to Data. Quit clinging to a few feats. Thats what fanboys do.

The film makes it clear by his actions, feats, etc. he is superior to humans in every way. It's actually plainly stated. That's why he was created as a genetic superman. You clearly did not see the film. I see why you rarely debate and instead focus on insults rather than objective evidence such as myself. Quit trying to derail the topic with other past threads.

The film also is canon so quit trying to avoid the actual incident.

You still will not compare his on screen time to his speed in a percentage. I asked a simple question in which you lied I did not ask. Dishonesty.


laughing out loud

Such as ? Actually prove something for once.


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Khan got tagged by Kirk multiple times in the face. And Uhura about what 8? And Spock a good deal of times too.

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No, it proves he was tagged. Your opinion is not a fact nor can you prove it. You really rarely ever prove anything. We see the Borg tag him using zombie like speed and you ignore that as well. Awful.


It proves he didn't care about being tagged by an inferior weapon he had prior knowledge of.

And once again, the borg tagging him was an ambush. Keep braying.

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Quit insulting and raging out. You want to ignore 95 percent of his showings on screen to support your views regarding to Data. Quit clinging to a few feats. Thats what fanboys do.


Considering you, for pages upon, stuck to 1 sole example of Data being ambushed, you have no room to make that accusation, so shut it.

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The film makes it clear by his actions, feats, etc. he is superior to humans in every way. It's actually plainly stated. That's why he was created as a genetic superman. You clearly did not see the film. I see why you rarely debate and instead focus on insults rather than objective evidence such as myself. Quit trying to derail the topic with other past threads.


Irrelevant unless demonstrated, and calculated Quan. What, it's less than the proof your asking me to produce below.

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The film also is canon so quit trying to avoid the actual incident.


So, we have one outlier vs every other thing he does, but the outlier is the sole thing you know about him, so that's all that counts to you? Piss off with that lack of research man.

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You still will not compare his on screen time to his speed in a percentage. I asked a simple question in which you lied I did not ask. Dishonesty.


I don't have to boil down to percentages, that is an outrageous thing to ask. Why would you need it? This is a dishonest smokescreen tactic that has not been the first time you've tried this either.

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Such as ? Actually prove something for once.


Once again, your outrageous claim of 1000 RPM rates of fire and 100% perfect accuracy claims for 2 off the top of my head.


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Khan got tagged by Kirk multiple times in the face. And Uhura about what 8? And Spock a good deal of times too.
Khan let him. laughing out loud

He was not hurt in the slightest.

Khan was in combat against Spock when she teleported in.


Spock is superior to humans as well.

Khan beat the crap out of Khan. Humans also lack the strength to crush a man's skull in the fashion Khan did to Admiral Marcus aka Robocop.


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Khan let him. laughing out loud

He was not hurt in the slightest.

Khan was in combat against Spock when she teleported in.


Spock is superior to humans as well.

Khan beat the crap out of Khan. Humans also lack the strength to crush a man's skull in the fashion Khan did to Admiral Marcus aka Robocop.


And Data let that lady shoot him. He was not hurt in the slightest. Notice how after the first time, he turned around and stood calmly while trying to talk to her? I mean I know you did, I'm just asking because you'd ignore it even more if I didn't.

And Data wasn't hurt by bullets. What can Khan do? Did we ever see Khan damage metal and high grade polymers with his bare hands? Because that's literally all Data is. 220lbs of military grade metal.

Spock is 3x human, Khan is 5x, Data's strength feats put him like at at least 10x.

And while the first shot took him off guard, he stood there and let Uhura keep shooting him. Why didn't he dodge?

And if Khan can crush a skull, Data easily hefting an anvil attached to a solid stone base means he can make a skull explode with a finger flick.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan beat the crap out of Khan.

Just like quan beats the crap out of quan every single time he posts on this forum.

I couldn't agree more. thumb up


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And Data let that lady shoot him. He was not hurt in the slightest. Notice how after the first time, he turned around and stood calmly while trying to talk to her? I mean I know you did, I'm just asking because you'd ignore it even more if I didn't.

And Data wasn't hurt by bullets. What can Khan do? Did we ever see Khan damage metal and high grade polymers with his bare hands? Because that's literally all Data is. 220lbs of military grade metal.

Spock is 3x human, Khan is 5x, Data's strength feats put him like at at least 10x.

And while the first shot took him off guard, he stood there and let Uhura keep shooting him. Why didn't he dodge?

And if Khan can crush a skull, Data easily hefting an anvil attached to a solid stone base means he can make a skull explode with a finger flick.
Yes, he did. He also was beaten by the Borg who could harm him. Two examples, sport.

Khan can use the environment and his superior speed and fighting ability to gain the advantage.

No, you exaggerate Data's strength without any evidence to back your claims.


He was caught off guard since he was fighting Spock. Think.

No, he can't since he has never done so. Khan can since he actually did break a skull.


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Just like quan beats the crap out of quan every single time he posts on this forum.

I couldn't agree more. thumb up
iPad. Khan wins. Get lost.


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It proves he didn't care about being tagged by an inferior weapon he had prior knowledge of.

And once again, the borg tagging him was an ambush. Keep braying.



Considering you, for pages upon, stuck to 1 sole example of Data being ambushed, you have no room to make that accusation, so shut it.



Irrelevant unless demonstrated, and calculated Quan. What, it's less than the proof your asking me to produce below.



So, we have one outlier vs every other thing he does, but the outlier is the sole thing you know about him, so that's all that counts to you? Piss off with that lack of research man.



I don't have to boil down to percentages, that is an outrageous thing to ask. Why would you need it? This is a dishonest smokescreen tactic that has not been the first time you've tried this either.



Once again, your outrageous claim of 1000 RPM rates of fire and 100% perfect accuracy claims for 2 off the top of my head.
If he had the speed to avoid it then he should still have dodged. He did not. Why not disarm her ? Not fast enough. You have no proof just empty theories.

Ambushed in a very slow fashion. Data also was aware of them. Slow reaction time.

Thats a clear portrayal supported by 95 percent of his interactions on screen. smile. Relax, hatred boy.

That backs up his consistent portrayal of being slow as poop.

So you avoid a simple question. Concession accepted.


You did not prove a thing in any of these debates. Your theories aren't proof.


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Just like quan beats the crap out of quan every single time he posts on this forum.

I couldn't agree more. thumb up


laughing laughing laughing


Come on, Quanchi: you at least got a laugh out of that, right?

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iPad. Khan wins. Get lost.


Touché.


Yo, do you want me to send you a keyboard for your iPad? I'll do it for free, of course.


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laughing laughing laughing


Come on, Quanchi: you at least got a laugh out of that, right?



Touché.


Yo, do you want me to send you a keyboard for your iPad? I'll do it for free, of course.
When you buy this place make me the moderator of the movie versus. That sounds like a wonderful idea.


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When you buy this place make me the moderator of the movie versus. That sounds like a wonderful idea.


*****, answer my question.

Do you want me to send you a keyboard for your iPad?


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*****, answer my question.

Do you want me to send you a keyboard for your iPad?
You don't have to do that. I'd rather you purchase kmc and update the hell out of this place. It's dying as we speak. Even the comic versus forums is dying out. Even though my iPad betrays me I forgive her.


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Ill vote for Data, because its against Khan, and Khan sucks........eh, it makes as much sense as anything Q posts to support Khan, so hopefully our idiotic posts cancel each other out. smile

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Ill vote for Data, because its against Khan, and Khan sucks........eh, it makes as much sense as anything Q posts to support Khan, so hopefully our idiotic posts cancel each other out. smile
At least you as it your bias. That's the first step in recovery.


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You don't have to do that. I'd rather you purchase kmc and update the hell out of this place. It's dying as we speak. Even the comic versus forums is dying out. Even though my iPad betrays me I forgive her.


Dude...I have plenty of money. Money is not an issue. All the time, people use your iPad posts as a way to win arguments and make fun of you: that just won't do.

I can clearly see when you posts are of higher caliber and when they are not. Obviously, it is more difficult to type and edit posts in a friggin' iPad. I can gift you the keyboard on Amazon and they will ship it to you at my cost: I don't even need your address. The internet is awesome.


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At least you as it your bias. That's the first step in recovery.


Yep, thats right.....when will you take that first step? stick out tongue

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Yep, thats right.....when will you take that first step? stick out tongue
I am objective to a fault.


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Data intentionally let himself get shot so that he would not be seen as being aggressive.

His strength feats are above Kahn's.

Kahn will win with energy weapons, but not h2h. He doesn't have the feats.


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