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Again what caused his suit to shorten out.
Yoda just had bad positioning.
Prove that I didn't.
He allowed windu to disarm him IMO.
Hey not my fault that maul sucks and isn't powerful enough or skilled enough to go head to head with these guys.
Fact is Dooku had him or tied him without it.
Type in the search engine was Sidious trying against Darth maul and then click the link that says clone wars finally gives us the Darth maul/Sidious battle we have been waiting for. For the other interview type in Dave Filoni lawless and click on Star Wars The clone wars Dave Filoni talks about death watch/Darth Maul arc.
Facts are that Luke didn't get scared and lightning doesn't change eye color. Luke was being tortured with far more powerful lightning for a longer or about the same amount of time.
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Vader HIMSLEF states that nothing can stop his death now and this is before Luke takes off his helmet. https://youtu.be/McUwVg6MfOk
So we agree they are stalemates and yoda only went down due to bad positioning. Good.
I've reread them and they were all from the movies. I said Sidious let him live by when he had windus back turned as seen in the movie he could have used lightning. He had windu at sword point also seen in the movie. I used commentary from the creator HIMSLEF so how is that not all movie related. https://youtu.be/YBLcxXR1PMw shows what I said was true. Also he killed three Jedi in 10 seconds who were all highly skilled. So how am I not using film evidence?
Prove it.
Apparently not since your complaining that he had an j fair advantage and he didn't go toe to toe he lasted for 24 seconds and Palptine wasn't even trying.
Yet Dooku beat kenobi in every battle.
Yet Luke's wasn't. Being evil means being apart of the dark side or having some sort of bond with it such as how the Sith do. This is a form of degradation. Another form is how dark spiders get pale skin such as what Palptine got. After all those years.
Sidious wipes the floor. The polls say it and the evidence shows it. Palpatine is to powerful for khan.
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So you must be stupid. Vader HIMSLEF admits that even with the helmet on he is going to die.
STALEMATES. Glad we agree.
No it's confirmed by a Star Wars role playing game and Disney nor Lucas have denied it. Also Luke didn't get scarred up and it's confirmed that the dark side alters your physicial appearance. Look up the dark side of the force and you will find an entire section devoted to dark side degradation and how Sidious delved deep into it thus his skin was altered to a radical extent.
Saying something isn't proof isn't proving it. Just you saying that. Unless you're someone on George Lucas level or Dave Filonis level or something that even dictates the production of Star Wars fight sequences something like that. Which you are not.
Again you saying someone hasn't backed something or saying its speculation without proving why it is is just you being a sore loser. I've given you interviews with Dave Filoni hat show now Sidious didn't think of maul as a rival of skill. I've given you the actual scene where Vader says that he is going to die whether he has his mask on or not and you still attempt to say that taking off the mask is what killed him when the movie states other wise. Also Sidious was easily able to force maul and savage onto a window and had them there agaisnt their wills and then he was able to force grab them and pull them down with him and then able to force push maul with ease knocking him unconscious, and then ragdolling him with ease and and then shocking him with force lightning. Maul lasted 24 seconds when it was just him vs Sidious. The entire fight becomes irrelevant when we are STRICTLY, SPECIFFACLY, AND EXCLUSIVELY LOOKING FOR HOW LONG HE WITHOUT ANY ASSISTANCE WAS ABLE TO GO AND FIGHT SIDIOUS. That battle was 24 seconds. He lasted longer than the three Jedi masters so that a good accomplishment.
So your saying that Dooku never beat Vos or Anakin. Now that's a lie. He beat vos in Dark Disciple and he beat Anakin during the clone wars. When did he not beat Obi wan in the clone wars. He never lost to him.
Luke not getting scarred for one.
Are you sure if that's the case then you should concede this as all evidence points toward Yoda. Look at the polls and the evidence.
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Prove it when Vader says otherwise. You're stupid.
A role playing game that gives a logical notion that the movies haven't contradicted in any way, also Luke wasn't messed up, Lucas and Disney haven't denied this what so ever, Darth bane who is now canon as he appeared has stated that the dark side has affect on a persons appearance and Revan has also acknowledged this also this is proven by how there eye color changes permanently as seen by maul and Sidious and possibly Anakin.
Fanboy. The moment your hero gets beat you wanna say it's not a big deal but when someone you don't care for gets beat you wanna throw it in someone's face. Also he didn't escape he was captured by Sidious then he escaped. Get your timing straight.
When did he beat kenobi or when did Dooku not beat him?
Him being younger means nothing. Luke had much less time of physical training than Palpatine. Less Jedi training while Palpatine had decades while Luke had a max one. Then he was attacked for just as long if not longer with more powerful lighting and he wasn't messed up. That alone calls that scene into question and with all the other evidence it's obvious that lightning was not the cause of it.
Come to me when you become a man kiddo.
Yoda shows him what true power is not some little gun that can easily be taken away form him.
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His words are his words and he says he would have died anyway. Vader unlike Palptine is not known for his lies. Vader is known for his fear tactics and the fear he imprints on others. As we here with the mask on he is dieng he is already dieng and then he tells Luke that I'm going to die either way.
Yes and the films dont deny not contradict this in the slightest. In fact the films make it highly likely due to the fact that Luke didn't get fired and he was exposed to much more powerful lightning.
Again my belief is that he threw the fight. So really the two of us going back and forth about this isn't going to accomplish anything as there is no official answer and neither one of us Is going to convince the other.
No it's not. If that the case why didn't Dooku who was much older than Palptine by this time he had very little to any wrinkles and when he was shocked he was just fine. Dark side degradation is what did that to Sidious. You yourself has stated that eye color is changed by being evil which also means being apart of the dark side. This is a form of dark side degradation and with that it's more to it. It also deforms your skin.
He lied to the senate what about that don't you understand. The senate believes he is a chancellor with no special powers. How coul he actually come out of that alive first off. Highly skilled trained Jedi vs a man in his 60s with no special powers. How does that happen? He lied to them. Dark side degradation is what caused his pale and degraded skin, the lightning simply took down the mask.
Then used the force redirect it back to palpatine.
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During his arrogant phase. That was Anakin Skywalker. This was Darth Vader/Newly redeemed Anakin Skywalker. He has learned from his arrogance and corrected his mistakes. Darth Vader is the better version of Anakin Skywalker. His words are his words. He says he would have died either way and he was sophicating with it on. Period.
We saw it a Sheev was lieing fact. Sith Mask and contradiction of the films and TCW and SOD and dark side degradation all prove this.
Well considering you're biased and contradictory don't expect you to see evidence where they exist so this is why I say we just leave it for now and if you wish to debate this debate me in the forum you made in the Expanded universe.
Still he isn't just wrinkly he hardly has any. Again you being biased and contradictory I wouldn't expect you to look at evidence as even when Vader in a moment where he doesn't need to lie and he would want to,live says that whether his helmet is taken off or not he would still die. You still try and claim that taking his helmet off is what killed him when he says otherwise.
He just fell farther due to having the bad end of the pod and being light weight.
He can't stop yoda ragdolling him. He can't stop yoda taking away his weapon.
That was said as Darth Vader. Darth Vader also said he wat Ed Luke's help in overthrowing Sheev. Vader is a moron. He died because his helmet was removed.
Films only. We see he wasn't lying. He was attacked. He left out the fact he was a Sith Lord. He was scarred. RPG game.
So Yoda lost. Good.
Yoda can't stop Khan's Boolean gun from killing him.
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Darth Vaders words. He said it doesn't matter now if you take the mask off or not. He died by Palpatines force lightning.
He was lying. His face was already like that and Luke didn't get fried and he was,exposed to it just as long so his face should be messed up yet it isn't.
As long as we agree the two are stalemates.
Yes he can. It's very simple. Just take it away with force, or move out the way since he has super speed, or use tutamins to absorb it or send it back at Khan, or he could use the force to take the gun turn it around and kill Kahn with it. I don't see khan having any defense against that.
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