Context. She wasn't attacking Yoda. She doesn't have a gun nor was she aware of Yoda's presence and uses a sword unlike Khan. You always ignore the context to try to desperately debate based off your vagina's feelings.
Khan outsmarted?
How smart was he to begin with coming up with that GREAT IDEA to hide the last of his people INSIDE friggin' weapons of mass destruction?
And then LOL have NO CONTROL or IDEA where those torpedoes went!
Spock lied & was given advice!
What blasphemy!
How many battles can you recite where one side has told their enemy truthful facts?
You keep referencing to Khan as a superman & yet he only wins against Yoda because of his "big uber gun."
Overcompensating much?
Khan had the tactical high ground & a powerful weapon against the Klingons.
He basically cheapshotted them!
Khan was defeated by a science officer & female communications officer.
Fact. Deal with it.
Khan's BIG UBER GUN overheats, powers down &/or runs out of ammo.
Khan didn't lose a single man and put himself into a position to kill Admiral Marcus. You can't argue with results. They didn't die nor did Khan.
. Vulcans do not lie. That's been pretty fundamental and it was clear he was abandoning his al code in dealing with Khan. Older Spock broke his code down just to give him advice since he deemed him that dangerous.
Nah but he does fight in character. This isn't a pissing contest it's a battle where these guys fight in character. Try to keep your personal feelings out of the threads.
They had ships which meant higher ground. They had numbers, intimate knowledge of the terrain, etc. khan decimated them because he's better.
Context. Yoda died alone after two massive failures against opponents he had chances with to kill on his own.
There is nothing to substantiate that baseless claim. You just make things up and ignore common sense. Khan wins based off the skills, tendencies of both characters, and his more ruthless approach. Better feats as well, sport.
a)Khan didn't lose any of his people because of Spock & Bones' actions.
Nothing to do with Khan at all.
Context.
b)Spock is only half Vulcan. HALF HUMAN. His human side is controlled by emotions. Thus the ability to lie, feel anger, sadness...
Context.
c) Fight in character?
You refuse to acknowledge Yoda's fighting credibility with & without a saber & yet fixate on Khan's one gun battle where clearly his only advantage was having a more powerful weapon.
Nowhere do we ever see Yoda let any of his opponents get close enough to him. Khan has no chance of crushing his skull.
Context.
d)The Klingons were meeting with the Federation crew. That's why they gave up the high ground. It was only when they got cheapshotted by Khan that they lost their advantage.
e) I'm pretty sure Yoda died of old age.
Brutal context there Skypey.
f) Baseless claim of Khan's BIG UBER GUN overheating?
In nearly every ST movie & prob 70% of all ST tv series, we've seen ST technology overheating &/or losing power...many episodes utilise this as a cliffhanger.
Are you gonna state for the record that Khan had a magical weapon that never over heats, runs out of power or ammunition?
False, as they didn't even know there were men and women in those torpedoes until Khan led them down to that conclusion. You obsess over his actions when in the end he didn't lose a single man. Results matter, 37 year old trying to date a 17 year old.
Vulcans can lie as well. Both violated their code of ethics against Khan because he was that amazing. He's brilliant as per the film and the Spock, sport. Why do you keep ignoring the entire situation then ?
I do acknowledge his fighting credibility which isn't enough here. Khan has a huge advantage in both having the edge in a more powerful weapon that's long ranged. Clones got close to him every single combat situation he was against them. Did you not see the films ? Khan would squish it very easily but lucky for Yoda he won't feel it as the phaser will kill him instantly.
They still had the high ground due to their ships since they were higher. This is painfully simple. Khan is ruthless and in combat only an idiot would announce an attack. That's a Palpatine thing that managed to hit Yoda.
Yoda went into hiding and eventually died due to old age after a massive failure. His own words after failing to kill the emperor, old guy.
Khan's fun was seen in how many star trek series and films ? None. Are you an idiot ? Rhetorical.
I am going to say without proof it'll overheat you're not providing any evidence as to suggest why it overheats here. It's about what you can prove not what random retarded shit you can flick onto a wall.