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Newjak
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Because then we would be applying a no-limits fallacy to mjolnir?

Of course Thor would have an easier time. He would not be getting weak by the atmosphere.

It managed to block the Destroyer's beam which was pretty powerful. Not world Engine Powerful but I don't see Thor getting destroyed by the beam.

Plus Thor is still pretty durable in his own right with some of the stuff he has taken.

Exactly Thor would destroy the World Engine.

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That beam was rather large, while I think Mjonir wouldn't be damaged by it, the hammer would not protect Thor if he stood under it like Superman. Now how much it would harm him, is hard to say.

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The beam wasn't more powerful than WE yeah. I was talking more about mjolnir itself, not Thor.

and yeah Thor would destroy it.

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Because then we would be applying a no-limits fallacy to mjolnir?

Of course Thor would have an easier time. He would not be getting weak by the atmosphere.

I am not sure if the Kryptonian environment won't affect him, maybe not as much as a human, but it will be speculation, cannot say 100 % sure if it will but also cannot say 100% that it won't.

But facing the world engine, he will have to face the tentacles made of that kyrptonian material, moving at high speed to dodge the tentacles, if he gets thrown into the beam, I'm not sure if he will survive that.

He could destroy it if he survives the beam, mjolnir absorbs the world engines's blast and redirects it into the world engine, but like you said, it could fall into the NLF rule.

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You forgot 6 of you and SHIELD

Well, to be fair, Superman got some help too.

I imagine if the Avengers could have stopped the Kyptonian invasion? specially the world engine, if they were getting powerless around it.

Well actually, IIRC Krypton's environment is not suitable for humans so they very much could be on a similar situation.

jor el helped, government helped, and his ugly gf helped. This is in his own movie. He needs his dead dad to fight his battles for him.

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You forgot 6 of you and SHIELD

Well, to be fair, Superman got some help too.

I imagine if the Avengers could have stopped the Kyptonian invasion? specially the world engine, if they were getting powerless around it.

Well actually, IIRC Krypton's environment is not suitable for humans so they very much could be on a similar situation.

Zod and crew? Probably not.

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jor el helped, government helped, and his ugly gf helped. This is in his own movie. He needs his dead dad to fight his battles for him.

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jor el helped, government helped, and his ugly gf helped. This is in his own movie. He needs his dead dad to fight his battles for him.

Yeah because his dead dad was the one actually doing the stuff....riiiight! no expression

Quit being a hater. Superman wins in all except for maybe the bonus round.

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I can't see how heat vision hurts Kyprtonians when they use it. If anything, it's discomfort

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jor el helped, government helped, and his ugly gf helped. This is in his own movie. He needs his dead dad to fight his battles for him.

Let it go Quan. Btw, I wanted to thank you for watching the movie and ensuring the sequel.

I told you, you are a closeted superman fan

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Let it go Quan. Btw, I wanted to thank you for watching the movie and ensuring the sequel.

I told you, you are a closeted superman fan

hahaha

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Yeah because his dead dad was the one actually doing the stuff....riiiight!

Quit being a hater. Superman wins in all except for maybe the bonus round.

His consciousness helped his gf release him.

Awful he has to rely on dead family members and women. Awful.

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Let it go Quan. Btw, I wanted to thank you for watching the movie and ensuring the sequel.

I told you, you are a closeted superman fan

I won't see the movie again. I am objective. I went and hated it. Awful. Repetitive and transformers like.

You are a Hulk fan. You admit it, turncoat.

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Just cause you don't like a movie doesn't mean you can't acknowledge which character would win in a fight.

Just cause you don't like a character, doesn't mean they can't win.

Example: inigo Montoya is probably my favorite character in all fiction. He would get destroyed by captain America.

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It will be interesting to see how Thor is displayed in his next movie.

He went from being pretty much Invincible in his first movie (while he was Thor), to being a diplomat and getting messed up because of it... (Protip, don't try and reason with Hulk when he's being manipulated by Loki, and.....of course, don't try and reason with Loki...)

I Think Thor's arse kicking isn't over yet, but he's got some serious shoes to fill after what Superman did.

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Just cause you don't like a movie doesn't mean you can't acknowledge which character would win in a fight.

Just cause you don't like a character, doesn't mean they can't win.

Example: inigo Montoya is probably my favorite character in all fiction. He would get destroyed by captain America.

Superman is overrated. He gets his ass kicked by multiple marvel heroes.

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As repetitive you thought the action was, you have to admit is more over the top tham avengers or any other marvel movie. Being overrated does not mwan weak.

Jun 19th, 2013 05:11 AM

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As repetitive you thought the action was, you have to admit is more over the top tham avengers or any other marvel movie. Being overrated does not mwan weak.

I disagree . We see building smashing done by the Leviathan ship which Hulk easily owned himself. We see hulk easily own one. That's on another level.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Just cause you don't like a movie doesn't mean you can't acknowledge which character would win in a fight.

Just cause you don't like a character, doesn't mean they can't win.

Example: inigo Montoya is probably my favorite character in all fiction. He would get destroyed by captain America.

WHOA WHOA WHOA! Montoya would KILL Cap

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