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Battle of the Fantasy Teams
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Originally posted by BloodRain
Groups of creatures surrounding him with other shooting arrows.. groups of human blitzing, bomb tanking beasts... Yeah three dragons don't stand out so much. No I'm assuming that Link and his expert marksmanship (hitting a 2 inch pole from about 300ft away and below) will be able to successfully hit dragons without too much effort.

In this situation the dragons are equally surrounding him syncing up their flames? Faster?


Where was that ever stated or hinted at?
So you believe hitting three moving targets while attacking you is the same as one inanimate object standing still.


He can't block all three dragons attacking him if they attack at once.

Common sense otherwise he would have done it to Saruman the first time. Many believe the only reason he did so was because he banished him from the order. He was reborn as the white version Saruman should have been so he had the authority to expel him.


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So you believe hitting three moving targets while attacking you is the same as one inanimate object standing still.
He can't block all three dragons attacking him if they attack at once.

Common sense otherwise he would have done it to Saruman the first time. Many believe the only reason he did so was because he banished him from the order. He was reborn as the white version Saruman should have been so he had the authority to expel him.
Professionals who practices these shots can 'sometimes' hit a 48inch target from 200m on level ground. Link hitting a 2inch pole from 135m away, 90m above him would make him the envy of professional archers. The same guy who uses these skills in combat situations all the time will hit three dragons.

Fire-breathing, arrows, human-blitzing beasts. Same results from the other hoards.


Would need to see the thoughts behind that, seeing as the Witch King did the same thing to Gandalf. Leading to a second point; Whether their wands are connected to their powers in this way has nothing to do with Tom. LotR wands being magically durable from the wielders power in its own lore, not HP. In HP no such trait exists.


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Professionals who practices these shots can 'sometimes' hit a 48inch target from 200m on level ground. Link hitting a 2inch pole from 135m away, 90m above him would make him the envy of professional archers. The same guy who uses these skills in combat situations all the time will hit three dragons.

Fire-breathing, arrows, human-blitzing beasts. Same results from the other hoards.


Would need to see the thoughts behind that, seeing as the Witch King did the same thing to Gandalf. Leading to a second point; Whether their wands are connected to their powers in this way has nothing to do with Tom. LotR wands being magically durable from the wielders power in its own lore, not HP. In HP no such trait exists.
That isn't canon and does not need to happen. Depends on the skill of the player. You continue to do this all the time. Moving multiple targets which can kill you are different than calmly shooting a still target. There's no canon time it takes as well even if you tried clinging to this feat.


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Excuses after excuse. Expert marksman + combat usage = dead dragons. And again, Link has taken hoards, and Bear > wolves.



So Dalf destroys Tom's wand?


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Excuses after excuse. Expert marksman + combat usage = dead dragons. And again, Link has taken hoards, and Bear > wolves.



So Dalf destroys Tom's wand?
No, as it isn't comparable. It isn't canon he is an expert marksman. Also not canon a specific time limit to properly aim.

Nope. Dalf only did so against characters he was more powerful than. Voldemort is more powerful than Gandalf.


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This Quan guy, ignoring feats. Link's not even in this thread, IIRC? If he were he'd shoot down the dragons effortlessly though. Those arrows do not **** around.

Why isn't Quan lowballing Ganon like I expected him to be when I came in here?


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This Quan guy, ignoring feats. Link's not even in this thread, IIRC? If he were he'd shoot down the dragons effortlessly though. Those arrows do not **** around.

Why isn't Quan lowballing Ganon like I expected him to be when I came in here?
Based on what ?

I think Dorf gets incinerated personally.


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No, as it isn't comparable. It isn't canon he is an expert marksman. Also not canon a specific time limit to properly aim.

Nope. Dalf only did so against characters he was more powerful than. Voldemort is more powerful than Gandalf.
A set cutscene for doing so, and the challenge of it is needed to get the Hawkeye. He uses it in combat, a feat in itself as /any/ archer who could dispatch of enemies in a combat situation would be able to tag dragons.


Proof that HP wands have the same connection to the Wizards power as LotR staffs?


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A set cutscene for doing so, and the challenge of it is needed to get the Hawkeye. He uses it in combat, a feat in itself as /any/ archer who could dispatch of enemies in a combat situation would be able to tag dragons.


Proof that HP wands have the same connection to the Wizards power as LotR staffs?
It isn't canon though. It also isn't within a certain time limit with no danger at all being present.

If that is how the Lotr wands work then why prove it for HP wands ?


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Needs to happen to beat the game.
Not canon.

Lel.


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Needs to happen to beat the game.
Not canon.

Lel.
No, you don't have to hit tha target. Not canon.


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You need to hit it to get the hawk eye, you can't go to the hidden village without the hawk eye, and the game specifically meant for the hawk eye to be used during that and another section. It's canon.

You're still lowballing the wrong character, Quan. Ganon's here to one shot your boy Voldemort again. smile Except this time he'll be in a crowd and Ganon won't even notice Voldemort when he does it.


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It isn't canon though. It also isn't within a certain time limit with no danger at all being present.

If that is how the Lotr wands work then why prove it for HP wands ?
Canon scripted scene, item and location from it. And who needs a time limit and danger? That scene is to only prove his marksmanship compared to irl experts, who he'd dominate.
Going back to the real point here: Fighting a large, highly durable dragon is a tougher challenge than three small, not so durable dragons. Especially when from a combat archer with great marksmanship.


Because your 'overpowering' point only works in the LotR verse were staffs are magically powered by the wielder. If this trait is not present in HP, then Dalf's magic would not need to overpower Tom's, just be able to destroy his wand which as we've seen in-verse aren't notably durable.


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You need to hit it to get the hawk eye, you can't go to the hidden village without the hawk eye, and the game specifically meant for the hawk eye to be used during that and another section. It's canon.

You're still lowballing the wrong character, Quan. Ganon's here to one shot your boy Voldemort again. smile Except this time he'll be in a crowd and Ganon won't even notice Voldemort when he does it.
No, I didn't do so and that is bonus only. Not canon as it doesn't have to happen. So sad. laughing out loud


Dorf lost a long time ago. HP wipes their asses with Hyrule.

Voldemort kills whoever gets in his way.


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Canon scripted scene, item and location from it. And who needs a time limit and danger? That scene is to only prove his marksmanship compared to irl experts, who he'd dominate.
Going back to the real point here: Fighting a large, highly durable dragon is a tougher challenge than three small, not so durable dragons. Especially when from a combat archer with great marksmanship.


Because your 'overpowering' point only works in the LotR verse were staffs are magically powered by the wielder. If this trait is not present in HP, then Dalf's magic would not need to overpower Tom's, just be able to destroy his wand which as we've seen in-verse aren't notably durable.
It is not canon as it isn't absolutely necessary.


You want to compare apples to organs over and over again. He faced no danger so quit acting like it is the same thing.

If that is the only reason it works in his verse the only way it still works in a shared universe is due to this. Can't ignore reasons just because you want Dalf to win. He doesn't.


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The game assumes you have it, it's canon. Trying to disregard feats he doesn't like, lel'd.
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Canon scripted scene, item and location from it. And who needs a time limit and danger? That scene is to only prove his marksmanship compared to irl experts, who he'd dominate.

Best part is this occurs within like an hour of him obtaining the bow.


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It is not canon as it isn't absolutely necessary.
You want to compare apples to organs over and over again. He faced no danger so quit acting like it is the same thing.

If that is the only reason it works in his verse the only way it still works in a shared universe is due to this. Can't ignore reasons just because you want Dalf to win. He doesn't.
Its fine if you want to deny official things. Expert marksman is thus.
Can you confirm that three baby dragons would be the most threatening, challenging task Link has ever faced? Because I'd call that a Tuesday for him.


That's not how it works and you know it. If Van Helsing uses a cross to kill his vampires, he couldn't use it to kill Eric. The same way Pokemon lightning cant damage Pokemon earth, yet Naruto lightning destroys Naruto earth. Its the target which says what will work on them or not. LotR staffs do, HP wands do not. Its not hard to follow.


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The game assumes you have it, it's canon. Trying to disregard feats he doesn't like, lel'd.

Best part is this occurs within like an hour of him obtaining the bow.
No, it does not. I did not do so. It isn't canon just an option.

It is due to the skill of the player and nothing more.


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Its fine if you want to deny official things. Expert marksman is thus.
Can you confirm that three baby dragons would be the most threatening, challenging task Link has ever faced? Because I'd call that a Tuesday for him.


That's not how it works and you know it. If Van Helsing uses a cross to kill his vampires, he couldn't use it to kill Eric. The same way Pokemon lightning cant damage Pokemon earth, yet Naruto lightning destroys Naruto earth. Its the target which says what will work on them or not. LotR staffs do, HP wands do not. Its not hard to follow.
That isn't official. I went through the game and this never happened. laughing out loud

That is different entirely as he makes it through Zelda but this is a versus thread where the hero can die.

Lotr staffs only work due to being more powerful so we can't conveniently ignore the reasoning to sell your flimsy points.


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So, to reiterate, you're trying to ignore Link's skill at archery in a thread he's not even in. Ha.


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