abhilegend
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1.Majestic
2. Majestic
3. Which version of warrior madness? Theorotical or which was actually shown twice in the comics twice?
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Jul 16th, 2013 11:00 AM
abhilegend
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Jul 16th, 2013 11:40 AM
LordofBrooklyn
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
1.Majestic
2. Majestic
3. Which version of warrior madness? Theorotical or which was actually shown twice in the comics twice?
Theoretical would seem best.
BLOOD AND THUNDER had Odin stating that Thor wasn't truly experiencing full warrior madness. That however is the closest to the actual thing we've ever seen. IIRC he entered Warrior Madness against the Hulk in an annual but the 2 were seperated by a nuclear blast before Thor got to cut loose.
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Jul 16th, 2013 01:49 PM
ODG
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Golgo13
Orion has shown to be a lot more durable in the new 52. In their last fight with First Born, Orion didn't need medical treatment, while WW was out 3 friggen days. This and his fight with Superman cements this. Wonder Woman had just fought Artemis before she even engaged the First Born. Y'know... the goddess that utterly stomped her in their first fight and required the release of her bracers the second time around. And Orion came in towards the end of the First Born fight.
But I agree that a completely fresh Orion is more durable than an exhausted and wounded Diana.
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Jul 16th, 2013 02:49 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Theoretical would seem best.
BLOOD AND THUNDER had Odin stating that Thor wasn't truly experiencing full warrior madness. That however is the closest to the actual thing we've ever seen. IIRC he entered Warrior Madness against the Hulk in an annual but the 2 were seperated by a nuclear blast before Thor got to cut loose.
He has also entered in Warrior madness against Adam Warlock in Thor 165-166 and didn't got that fabled 10x amp there too.
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Jul 16th, 2013 02:56 PM
the Darkone
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor
Maj
Thor
1&2 are really close...
3 Thor rage stomp the hell out Majestic
Jul 16th, 2013 04:27 PM
snowdragon
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I guess Flash's 'IMP" must be totally useless since he's so fast............
Jul 16th, 2013 04:34 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by snowdragon
I guess Flash's 'IMP" must be totally useless since he's so fast............
Who said that?
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snowdragon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Who said that?
There was a discussion of faster punches not being effective so I threw in Flash IMP since if their logic is to follow faster punches are less effective then the Flash must be a useless puncher.
Jul 16th, 2013 04:56 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by snowdragon
There was a discussion of faster punches not being effective so I threw in Flash IMP since if their logic is to follow faster punches are less effective then the Flash must be a useless puncher.
I think the argument was against blitz/combo/chain style multiple punches being depicted as not as effective as a single punch (whether that single punch was at superspeed or not) in the realm of comics.
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Jul 16th, 2013 04:59 PM
snowdragon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think the argument was against blitz/combo/chain style multiple punches being depicted as not as effective as a single punch (whether that single punch was at superspeed or not) in the realm of comics.
Right which is why I brought up Flash who has used speed in punches to be effective. Blitz/combo/chain punches being depicted as not as effective is just a logical fallacy.
Jul 16th, 2013 05:10 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by snowdragon
Right which is why I brought up Flash who has used speed in punches to be effective. Blitz/combo/chain punches being depicted as not as effective is just a logical fallacy.
It doesn't make sense, but comics tend to show that if a character blitzes another with some x hit combo and then later in the fight hits them with a single blow, odds are, that single blow is portrayed as more effective.
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Jul 16th, 2013 05:13 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It doesn't make sense, but comics tend to show that if a character blitzes another with some x hit combo and then later in the fight hits them with a single blow, odds are, that single blow is portrayed as more effective.
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Jul 16th, 2013 05:15 PM
JakeTheBank
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And we've seen character shrug off blitzes only for a single titanic punch to be the thing to topple them or damage them. To that end, I don't think blitzes or superspeed are instant win methods as they seem to be on forums in the general sense.
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Jul 16th, 2013 05:20 PM
xJLxKing
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Except you can't discredit them thinking they won't hurt. A Haymaker with speed is the same thing as if they're was no speed
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Jul 16th, 2013 05:24 PM
ares834
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And we've seen character shrug off blitzes only for a single titanic punch to be the thing to topple them or damage them. To that end, I don't think blitzes or superspeed are instant win methods as they seem to be on forums in the general sense.
Sure, but a character with super speed is going to be able to use far more power punches in a short time than one who doesn't.
Jul 16th, 2013 05:25 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xJLxKing
Except you can't discredit them thinking they won't hurt. A Haymaker with speed is the same thing as if they're was no speed
I didn't say they wouldn't hurt.
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Jul 16th, 2013 05:27 PM
snowdragon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xJLxKing
Except you can't discredit them thinking they won't hurt. A Haymaker with speed is the same thing as if they're was no speed
Actually a haymaker with speed would produce FAR more power then a slow haymaker thrown by the same person.
Jul 16th, 2013 05:33 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And we've seen character shrug off blitzes only for a single titanic punch to be the thing to topple them or damage them. To that end, I don't think blitzes or superspeed are instant win methods as they seem to be on forums in the general sense.
Name one such instant. I can post a hundred flash fights in resonse to that.
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