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Originally posted by -Pr-
He's supposed to be short, true, but are you honestly equating adding a few inches of height with changing a character's entire ethnicity? Cavill is shorter than Superman, but do we rag on him for it? No, because he looked enough like Superman that it still worked.

I get that you think Momoa is a good choice. I don't understand the why, but I get that you do.

That said, I'm going to have issue with what you went on to say.

Affleck does look like versions of Bruce that have been drawn before. Many of them, in fact. Bruce is a handsome, tall, white guy with dark hair and a strong jawline. Affleck has all of that. He's also an actor with talent that we've actually seen on-screen, and though not everyone is okay with him being chosen, there's still every reason to think he can pull off the character.

Gadot is a relative unknown talent-wise, but she actually looks a little Greek, which helps her look more like Diana. She was also in the military, and if that doesn't help her portray a warrior, I don't know what will. She could suck in the role, but she has enough pluses that, for the moment, she's given the benefit of the doubt. But to go back to the start, yes, she looks like the kind of woman Diana could look like.

Alfred has not got a defined look to the extent that any member of the Justice League does. That's why so many artists take liberties with him. The extent of the "direction" an artist needs when drawing Alfred is "older, proper, british butler". There aren't NEARLY as many restrictions on drawing him as there are on Aquaman, and it does allow for more flexibility. That, and Alfred is a supporting character for a superhero; considerations of his appearance will always be secondary to those of the primary characters.

Amy Adams was a Caucasian woman that looked at the right age to play alongside Cavill. Give her dark hair, and she looks like any number of versions of Lois Lane. She also gave, imo, a decent performance.

Perry White is also a supporting character, with less of a defined look than any member of the JLA. Making him Laurence Fishbourne isn't that big a deal, as Perry isn't a character that is, honestly, important enough that it would matter. His appearance is not something that is iconic about the character. I even liked Fishbourne, truth be told.

Jonathan and Martha were played by older, American, white people. That's literally the only criteria required for the characters' looks.

Shannon's Zod actually looks like how Zod appeared in several Superman comics over the past few years (even before the movie; we're talking preboot stuff here). So his appearance is actually mostly accurate.

Faora looked, in general, like several iterations of the character that came before, so she's consistent.



Spacey looked more like Luthor than several of the comic versions. And acted more like current Luthor than some of them too. Luthor has actually been redesigned several times over the years, and if you were to line Spacey up against several of them, he'd actually seem more accurate than a good deal of them.

Hackman played up the businessman side of Lex, that's true, but it's not unheard of in the comics either. As far as how he looked, which is what i'm mainly talking about, the dude was a haircut away from looking like Lex Luthor.

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Momoa, if he has been cast as Aquaman, has been cast as a character that had a consistent, defined look for decades. His ethnicity, his costume etc, have all been specifically chosen by the writers and the artists that have worked with them.

When Snyder writes a Batman comic, does the artist he hands his pages over to, have to consult a sketchbook to make sure he gets Alfred right?

Or when Jim Lee draws Lex Luthor, does he really have to worry about making him a certain way, or does he have the leniency to work with a very broad "white, bald, and well dressed" set of outlines?

Even when Aquaman had his hook hand, which he only had for a few years, it was a look that was specifically maintained across several comics under different writers (PAD and Morrison at one point).

And then there's his character. As I said before, I like Momoa as an actor. I liked him as Ronan Dex, and I liked him as Kal Drogo. He's a solid actor, and he does seem like a genuinely nice guy from the interviews I've seen him in.

Is he right for Aquaman, though? I just don't see it. Even taking away the looks, which I seriously maintain he doesn't have, he's never shown the kind of range required for the character. The core of the Aquaman character is that he's a child of two worlds that will never accept him because of what his parents did, and his struggle to maintain balance between both lives. Sure, you can have him do cool shit in a team movie, but in a solo one, you need someone with presence, and when it comes down to it, this is what really pisses me off about the casting:

I don't believe Momoa can carry a solo movie as Aquaman. I really don't.

He's been in some low budget stuff, sure, but tbh, this is one of DC's tentpole characters. This is one of the founding members of the Justice League, one of their most "unusual" members due to his unwillingness to be a team player at times. He's also one of the few DC comic characters that has actual exposure in the GA, for better or worse.

I'm genuinely worried that, if they change too much, it will just reinforce the ideas of the people that think that Aquaman underwent some sort of massive revamp with the reboot, and that the guy in Injustice and the like wasn't around for the last twenty years, when he was.

Ugh, I'm writing too much. Okay, time to wrap it up.

Maybe you don't care if a character looks like their comic version; that's your right. But I really don't agree with the sentiment that it's okay to make drastic changes to how a MAJOR (emphasis for emphasis) character looks when they come from such a visual medium.

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Originally posted by Femi32
Comicbookmovie.com cites Batman-News for Lex Luthor's hairstyle and character. It's not confirmed and I hope it's not true, but everything that I read and hoped wasn't true ended up being true regarding this movie.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansi...102083#comments

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Originally posted by Golgo13
A few inches? Try almost 10 inches. Wolverine is supposed to be 5 foot 3 inches. Hugh Jackman is 6 foot 2 inches. BTW, I don't give a crap how tall he is compared to the comics just that it's not all about the look but how they portray the characters personality, pathos, etc... And no, I wouldn't cast someone like Paul Dano as Wolverine because he's a good actor, you have to somewhat resemble the freaking character.

Anyway, it looks like you favor the other casting choices and gave good reasoning unlike some people here. I agree with you on that front. Snyder can draw GOOD performances from his actors, so I'm not worried outside of a few people.

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Originally posted by Femi32
Comicbookmovie.com cites Batman-News for Lex Luthor's hairstyle and character. It's not confirmed and I hope it's not true, but everything that I read and hoped wasn't true ended up being true regarding this movie.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansi...102083#comments

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Wolverine's height is really that big of an issue for you?

And yes, given how Wolverine is drawn a lot of the time as not being 5' 3", I think "a few inches" isn't that inaccurate a statement.

Should he be always drawn that way? Sure. But he isn't a lot of the time. Add that to Singer obviously wanting a leading man to let the movies revolve around, and he was never going to pick someone that small, was he.

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Looks like they're going for a pre-accident Luthor. Interesting.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
Also, dont get your hopes up on the Lex rumor. That site is generally wrong on info.

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Originally posted by Inhuman
Could be fake, but you agree this sounds absolutely horrible right?

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Originally posted by Golgo13
I'm not reading any spoilers. Just in case it is true.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
A few inches? Try almost 10 inches. Wolverine is supposed to be 5 foot 3 inches. Hugh Jackman is 6 foot 2 inches.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Wolverine's height is really that big of an issue for you?

And yes, given how Wolverine is drawn a lot of the time as not being 5' 3", I think "a few inches" isn't that inaccurate a statement.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
I said i didnt care what his height was. My point is you dont need the charactrrs to look exact for the movie to succeed.

Also, dont get your hopes up on the Lex rumor. That site is generally wrong on info.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Some things do have to change for the movies. And simple fact is Fox were not going to take the risk, of having their cool central character be a midget. That's all there was to that. Some things do need to be re-thought or adjusted for the big screen.

The problem is when they take that thinking too far, and just change everything about the look and personality of the character. And change things which made them popular in the first place, or simply don't need to be changed.

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Originally posted by Inhuman
"Eisenberg’s Luthor has spastic mannerisms, like a 20-something guy that pounds energy drinks all day"

"Lex is introduced in which he takes a basketball shot, and in the same motion, after draining the shot, turns around and shakes a senator's (?) hand, who is there to greet him. He looks like Kurt Cobain, and is a complete douche."


damn that sounds pretty horrible.

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Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Wow... does DC even care about this movie?

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You mean Warner Bros.

DC Comics have very little say on what happens in the movies.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Looks like they're going for a pre-accident Luthor. Interesting.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Some things do have to change for the movies. And simple fact is Fox were not going to take the risk, of having their cool central character be a midget. That's all there was to that. Some things do need to be re-thought or adjusted for the big screen.

The problem is when they take that thinking too far, and just change everything about the look and personality of the character. And change things which made them popular in the first place, or simply don't need to be changed.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You mean Warner Bros.

DC Comics have very little say on what happens in the movies.

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Originally posted by Inhuman
you didn't answer the question

(just read those sentences i posted in my post)