As much as you don't want to see it, a character with powerful versatility is going to be valued in a war. Eg Bufly has supersonic large sale AoE beings or TP having a guy with large building sized reality warping. Compare that to a subsonic vamp with no attacks besides hitting. The formers are more dangerous here.
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It is silly to numerically value them. Vampires can travel very fast so while they might not be able to cast spells they can kill with speed and strength. That's a game changer.
The reality type warping is ok but Faeries have shown the ability to warp their fictional planes as well. Doesn't make either unbeatable.
Yes, it is silly, and the numbers don't actually mean anything but as a way to show Nate what I was talking about. Without 1k, the average TB Vamp (mean&median) is about 200 years old. At this age they are much faster than humans but still tagged by things well below bullet speed, and their strength is fatal to humans but overall a below Russell's. Compare this to LotR Trolls etc, being far larger, stronger and more durable the AvgVamp whose single advantage would be speed as Trolls are only Peak+. They would be in the same category. Then compare to TP Gorons who are smaller than Trolls but much stronger and more durable, or TwiBeasts who have strength and speed around the Troll/Vamp area but with that really impressive durability. Tbh the top few Vamps should be '7s'.
Unless the Fae can actually use that in combat or against anyone, its nowhere near the same. A great physical self backed with varied and powerful magic is whats impressive.
As said Blade and Jack are out for being the overall weakest and smallest in number.
Buffy is the polar opposite to LotR here. Buffy's 3-6 top tiers (depending on whether Angel is counted) and LotRs literal armies will put major dents into any side whether from powerful magic or sheer numbers. Eg if a few humans can threaten TB vamps, a hundred medieval soldiers will be a fatality. While these two can be gamechangers, I can't see them surviving to the end all too much, meaning they're out. So as for that top three, it would be TP, VD and TB being that they'd be the only ones with that could be left standing.
And before you look at this in a 'TP rulez awl' post, think it over. In a war thread with thousands clashing all around you, killing and surviving are invaluable points. While the vamps have the speed advantage we've seen how lower speeds and numbers can tag them, and with only Peak+ durability any physical attack would down one with the possibility of death with the right hit. These kinds of attacks wont be as much of a bother to things like TwiliBeasts, Gorons or the dozen bosses. Overall better survivability. While the Vamps speeds would give them an easier time dispatching those with human+ durability, the strength/durability difference would mean that they would get more time to rack up kills. Further as they'd be able to take down things above the Vamps strength. With powers TP will rack up more kills than either vamp verse. Overall it would be around equal in killing physically with TP taking the variation/magic side. TP has the best overall survivability and kill-count in this war, advantage is theirs.
Finally is the 2nd and 3rd spots. The vampires are roughly equal physically, but VD will take second for 3 important reasons.
1. They're not alone. While TB Vamps are the most powerful things in their verse, in VD the Vamps which already measure up to TB are also matched by VD Weres. Not much, but it increases their threat level.
2. They are not the strongest. The most notable beings in TB are the 6 vampires over 1,000 y/o, beings who flex at the avg Vamps. In VD the avg Vamp is defeated by Originals, Enhanced and Hybrids. Power and/or numbers, they take the top tiers.
3. They have the variation. Besides biting and scratching, TB has concussive blasts from Fae, very limited magic from witches and Bill's telekinesis. VD ghosts have telekinesis and witches have more powerful magic than anything TB has to offer.
Twilight Princess > Vampire Diaries > True Blood > Buffy / Lord of the Rings > Blade / Jack
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There's also a statement from Midna that Zant turned all the Twili into Shadow Beasts. So Twilight Princess has a pretty good way to increase its numbers with pretty powerful units that can revive each other.
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