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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
I never attempted to use the feat as the end all be all. It's just a feat which shows how superhumanly strong it is which doesn't determine the outcome of the fight. Your side wants to cling to unquantifiable feats as some sort of end all be all proof.
It does determine the outcome of this thread, though. If the car is lighter than Dangoro, it means Russell's displayed strength isn't enough to catch Dangoro.
There's no fight here. The question is if Russell could stop Dangoro, and you say he could. What are you basing this on, if you're not using the car portrayal?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove it.
Not my responsibility. You're supporting Russell as capable of doing more than he has by feats, prove that he can.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 04:59 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Scenario
It does determine the outcome of this thread, though. If the car is lighter than Dangoro, it means Russell's displayed strength isn't enough to catch Dangoro.
There's no fight here. The question is if Russell could stop Dangoro, and you say he could. What are you basing this on, if you're not using the car portrayal?
You need to prove it since that is your claim.
I am basing it off of his superhuman strength. He can move faster than bullets yet his skin stays perfectly in tact as he rips through bone and skin alike.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not my responsibility. You're supporting Russell as capable of doing more than he has by feats, prove that he can.
You claimed he cannot do so the burden falls on your deltoids not mine.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
You claimed he cannot do so the burden falls on your deltoids not mine.
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Russell lacks the feats to do so, so he cannot. Simple.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:08 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
7.
Russell lacks the feats to do so, so he cannot. Simple.
Your claim your burden.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:29 PM
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14. You don't seem to get how this works. You've said Russell succeeds and provided no evidence he does. This makes it your claim, as well as the fact I don't need to prove a negative.
Russell's feats show he's not strong or durable enough.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
14. You don't seem to get how this works. You've said Russell succeeds and provided no evidence he does. This makes it your claim, as well as the fact I don't need to prove a negative.
Russell's feats show he's not strong or durable enough.
His feats are more impressive than Links with a sword. Fact.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:35 PM
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20. I lol'd. Russell is class 1(at best). Link is class 100+.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
20. I lol'd. Russell is class 1(at best). Link is class 100+.
Prove it. Class 100's don't need a Sword to rip into flesh.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 05:45 PM
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24, Link has several class 100 feats.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:10 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
24, Link has several class 100 feats.
Then why does he need a sword to rip through flesh. Which feats prove this ?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Then why does he need a sword to rip through flesh. Which feats prove this ?
He doesn't? Overpowering Dangoro, matching Ganondorf, knocking Blizetta around like a pinball.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to prove it since that is your claim.
Dangoro is larger than a car, wearing metal armor, and is partially made of rock. He is heavier than a car. Russell has not shown enough strength to lift that much weight. Thus I conclude that Dangoro is too heavy to Russell to stop.
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I am basing it off of his superhuman strength. He can move faster than bullets yet his skin stays perfectly in tact as he rips through bone and skin alike.
Can you prove Russell has enough superhuman strength, though? There are different levels, after all. If Russell's car portrayal is the best he's got, it isn't enough. Ripping through bone is likewise not strong enough.
You claim Russell can stop Dangoro. Why do think his flesh tearing portrayals are enough to stop a charging rock monster?
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Scenario
Dangoro is larger than a car, wearing metal armor, and is partially made of rock. He is heavier than a car. Russell has not shown enough strength to lift that much weight. Thus I conclude that Dangoro is too heavy to Russell to stop.
Can you prove Russell has enough superhuman strength, though? There are different levels, after all. If Russell's car portrayal is the best he's got, it isn't enough. Ripping through bone is likewise not strong enough.
You claim Russell can stop Dangoro. Why do think his flesh tearing portrayals are enough to stop a charging rock monster?
You cannot prove it and Link needs boots to do so. Russell easily palmed a car unlike Link's gear aided feat.
Link cannot rip through flesh and a bone on his own since he has never done so.
Boots. Sealed the deal. Boots>>>Gorons.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
You cannot prove it and Link needs boots to do so. Russell easily palmed a car unlike Link's gear aided feat.
Link cannot rip through flesh and a bone on his own since he has never done so.
Boots. Sealed the deal. Boots>>>Gorons.
27, 28, 29.
You cannot prove that Russell did anything more than tilt the car. The car is lighter than Dangoro, moving slower, and didn't resist at all. Russell cannot be proven to be durable enough to survive such a mass in motion literally crushing him into paste.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
27, 28, 29.
You cannot prove that Russell did anything more than tilt the car. The car is lighter than Dangoro, moving slower, and didn't resist at all. Russell cannot be proven to be durable enough to survive such a mass in motion literally crushing him into paste.
Prove it. Goat is lighter than a car in which Link needs the proper technique. Russell toyed with the car. On Links own he can stop a goat on his own with the proper technique.
Context.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:26 PM
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That goat was moving much faster than the car, actively resisting, and very easily could have been as heavy or heavier. It's worth noting Link became exponentially stronger, so you are again, repeating a defeated point. 30.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
You cannot prove it and Link needs boots to do so. Russell easily palmed a car unlike Link's gear aided feat.
Cannot prove what?
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Link cannot rip through flesh and a bone on his own since he has never done so.
This isn't about Link. The question is whether or Russell can stop Dangoro.
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Boots. Sealed the deal. Boots>>>Gorons.
Do the boots make Russell stronger?
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That goat was moving much faster than the car, actively resisting, and very easily could have been as heavy or heavier. It's worth noting Link became exponentially stronger, so you are again, repeating a defeated point. 30.
Prove how fast the goat was moving. You made the claim. Speed does not matter unless its a zelda feat, obviously.
Prove he got stronger. His skills and gear got better. His strength never increased to stop a Goron without the boots. Fact.
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