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Fellow believers. You say you are saved and non-believers go to hell. Well, ----

Fellow believers. You say you are saved and non-believers go to hell. Well, ----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg

You tell those who do not believe as you do, that because of their non-beliefs, that they are damned to a fate inferior to yours. Hell in fact.

That belief has made believers, non-believers and those of other religions war against each other for all of this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3yJomUhs0g

I think we should bury the hatchet, soonest.

If the religious system believers like you preached is superior, all you would need do to win world support is have your side walk its talk. You and your friends are not making that effort and we can all see that you are not superior in any way. If you did and showed your worth, our collectively seeing the benefits would give your religion, all the Abrahamic cults that is, the oneness it craves.

Showing your effectiveness is all you need do to silence the non-believers and massively win them over. You have not done so and Secularism is now firmly entrenched in the world.

The Abrahamic cults know that to follow Jesus is impossible so they work to enrich themselves and do not even attempt to end poverty. Jesus’ mission. Everyone sees this and I have to wonder if the old perverts infesting church hierarchies are worth our resources.

Secularism on the other hand has taken 1 billion souls out of poverty in the last twenty years and forecasts another billion souls being raised in the next twenty years, ---- in spite of the wasted resources of rich religions and various warring political and religious factions.

Myths and fairy tales like the one above are only good if we take the good and recognize why it is good. Judge not is given to indicate that to judge is to put yourself above God.

When you and other believers, me included, say that we are saved and others are not, --- we are putting our judgement into God’s mouth. Shame on us.

To those who speak for God, a God demonstrably based on a myth, I say, regardless of what you call yourself, we are all named in this quote.

See it? See your label?

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

I think the various religions should bury the hatchet. Don't you?

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DL

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IMO, until there is a profound shift in human consciousness, until religionism is stifled and people no longer believe they have Divine License to treat others, not of their faith, as inferiors, the hatchet will be kept busy.


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IMO, until there is a profound shift in human consciousness, until religionism is stifled and people no longer believe they have Divine License to treat others, not of their faith, as inferiors, the hatchet will be kept busy.


As awesome and profound as the above statement is...it shall go unheard and unheeded by those who most need to hear/heed it.


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...it shall go unheard and unheeded by those who most need to hear/heed it.
Evidence for a divine sense of humor??


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IMO, until there is a profound shift in human consciousness, until religionism is stifled and people no longer believe they have Divine License to treat others, not of their faith, as inferiors, the hatchet will be kept busy.


With luck the shift will not be as profound as you might want.

I am thinking here of gay marriage and how quickly and quietly people just sort of went that way.

Let us pray that the same sweet transition occurs with anti-religion.

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IMO, until there is a profound shift in human consciousness, until religionism is stifled and people no longer believe they have Divine License to treat others, not of their faith, as inferiors, the hatchet will be kept busy.


Humans are the problem. Get better humans, and then you don't have to worry about the rest. The problem is that there are no better humans. We are stuck with ourselves.


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IMO, until there is a profound shift in human consciousness, until religionism is stifled and people no longer believe they have Divine License to treat others, not of their faith, as inferiors, the hatchet will be kept busy.


tl;dr

Where's my torch?


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Nothing like a good old fashioned torching to make God smile.


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Humans are the problem. Get better humans, and then you don't have to worry about the rest. The problem is that there are no better humans. We are stuck with ourselves.


A valid point. I am not an atheist but let's have a look at how to improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94f2...player_embedded

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A valid point. I am not an atheist but let's have a look at how to improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94f2...player_embedded

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I am not impresses with youtube videos. They are impossible to debate. Please assume that I do not look at any of your youtube videos, ever.


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