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Etherean Fire
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Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...


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You should really enlighten yourself with some comics. You'll then realize what a rape for team comic this is for.



Anime loses due to not having the durability, speed, strength and energy projection as much on their side.


Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition.


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Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...




Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition.

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In recent history? Gorr, Surfer, the Demogorge, and arguably Valkyrie, but /meh. The case with Gorr is pretty much inarguable since we have multiple instances within that fight of people being percieved and intercepted/attacked while moving at FTL.


Gorr and Demogorge have never to my knowledge actually fought at light speed though.

Yes, Thor has good reflexes and can perceive people moving at FTL speeds but he has never shown the aptitude to keep up with someone who can fight at those speed.

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Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...




Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition.


Stop being butthurt about team anime getting railed. And judging by all the support Thor has, I'm not in the wrong.


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So assuming goku and thor could at least last five minutes, who wins with the leftovers?

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Hulk.

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Stop being butthurt about team anime getting railed. And judging by all the support Thor has, I'm not in the wrong.


You're not right though. You have no point to make. stick out tongue You actually suggested Thor use his lighting against Dialga and Arceus, BOTH of which are resistant to lightning.

Besides, I was at work all day while this went on in my absence. I'm so far behind I don't even care anymore. Lol.


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Gorr and Demogorge have never to my knowledge actually fought at light speed though.

Yes, Thor has good reflexes and can perceive people moving at FTL speeds but he has never shown the aptitude to keep up with someone who can fight at those speed.

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Gorr is blasted light years away in 'moments', and the Thors follow him at massively FTL speeds. Gorr percieves them and...

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Hurls chunks of moon to intercept them, which they react to.

To reiterate, Thor, while moving FTL was targetted by and reacted to a FTL asteroid. This is current Thor.


This happens again later on, except instead of a chunk of moon Gorr full body tackles Current Thor as he's travelling back to the world where they'd begun fighting initially, and they continue to fight at those speeds which leads them to the planet and moon Thor was destroying indirectly.


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Hulk.
Here we are in agreement, though I'd also say Iron Man.


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You're not right though. You have no point to make. stick out tongue You actually suggested Thor use his lighting against Dialga and Arceus, BOTH of which are resistant to lightning.

Besides, I was at work all day while this went on in my absence. I'm so far behind I don't even care anymore. Lol.


We don't know that they're resistant to magical lightning from magical hammers stick out tongue


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One sec...

This happens again later on, except instead of a chunk of moon Gorr full body tackles Current Thor as he's travelling back to the world where they'd begun fighting initially, and they continue to fight at those speeds which leads them to the planet and moon Thor was destroying indirectly.


That doesn't mean they are fighting at FTL speeds IE punching each other thousands of times in a second. It just shows them fighting while moving at such speeds and being able to perceive such attacks. Something I have never argued against.

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We don't know that they're resistant to magical lightning from magical hammers stick out tongue


Dialga is a dragon-type, and Arceus has 'plates' representing every type. With all of said plates, he is resistant (or immune; can't remember) to the respective type. Electricity is among them.


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Dialga is a dragon-type, and Arceus has 'plates' representing every type. With all of said plates, he is resistant (or immune; can't remember) to the respective type. Electricity is among them.


Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.

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That doesn't mean they are fighting at FTL speeds IE punching each other thousands of times in a second. It just shows them fighting while moving at such speeds and being able to perceive such attacks. Something I have never argued against.
Even that would be plenty enough to put Thor well above Goku, but Thor actively reacted to a chunk of moon moving to intercept him as he'd moved MFTL, and then Gorr intercepted him personally when he did it again, this says a lot about Gorr's combat speed and by extension Thor's own. If you can shoot a bullet out of the air, you're above bullet timing, imho, that's essentially what happened with the moon chunk, except the bullet could react to the other bul- You know what, this analogy is getting weird.

tl;dr, I think it's enough. stick out tongue


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Oh, I have no doubt that Thor would be able to waste Goku in a fight.

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Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.
Anime* Arceus, yeah. Thor would waste him effortlessly. I think MewTwo is the only pokemon who has ever benefitted from the anime in terms of power.


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Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.


I'm simply referring to one of Vet's previous uneducated arguments.

I never actually saw the movie, but I heard most of his low showings were essential PIS.


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Anime Arceus would be wasted by Mystery Dungeon Rayquaza, honestly.

Heck, a couple hundred electric pokemon managed to harm him and keep still long enough for the plot device to work on him. Dude's kind of a pushover in that movie.


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Anime* Arceus, yeah. Thor would waste him effortlessly. I think MewTwo is the only pokemon who has ever benefitted from the anime in terms of power.


I'm still not sure how the anime so greatly differentiates from the games. Shouldn't they essentially be the same being? I haven't noticed any real changes in power or otherwise.


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I'm still not sure how the anime so greatly differentiates from the games. Shouldn't they essentially be the same being? I haven't noticed any real changes in power or otherwise.
There are some pretty massive differences between them. VG Arceus created the entire pokeverse, including space and time and their respective embodiments, as well as Giratina, who is a complete badass. VG Arceus is at least cube level.


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