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Your gonna have to wait till tomorrow because my phone isn't letting me play the video and laptop is at school you wanna call a truce till tomorrow where I can tell you where it said it.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 01:16 AM |
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Danny Wayne
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Hey go to 36:20 and watch it from their around that time maddie will say it.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 01:29 PM |
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BloodRain
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That's just the part where she says the hundred fold line. I'm asking for the evidence that the legs without the torso are weaker than when its ontop.
If there isnt then the running and kicking would suggest that Jack only became 5x physically faster, leading to the hundredfold just being the typical trope line.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 06:28 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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Ok because even though maddie made the robot she dosent know how much it increases now your being bias.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 06:35 PM |
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BloodRain
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Because you have never in your lift revolved around fiction have heard the phrase 'ten-fold, hundred-fold'?
Its a phrase. Without demonstrated evidence it'll remain a phrase. The fact that hundred-fold is said and by evidence Jack only gets a 5x increase, it would lead to me being correct about the non-factual statement.
And once again she says 'natural abilities', not any specific stats. Now show me the actual evidence to support your claim.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 06:46 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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Natural ability- speed, strength, etc.. so cause you said a wall was 500 tons I could say it was hollow and it was 5 tons cause we never saw the inside.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 06:53 PM |
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BloodRain
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You could but that would be petty and quite idiotic to have such a grand and highly defensive wall to be hollow, that and a wall is a wall.
Natural abilities is a general term, so to what does it include? Every single natural ability of a person? Here are the facts: vague statements alone don't meant much when getting specific figures down, nor do the actual feats shown do anything but prove my argument.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 06:57 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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So never stated not hollow see if your gonna say even though maddie stated 100 fold then I will turn ichigos feats around like your doing Danny natural abilities include strength, speed, etc... you get the point. I love how because the character who makes the thing yet some guy who dosent know squat about a show yet thinks he knows more than the character.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:02 PM |
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BloodRain
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Oh lord.. this is not that hard to grasp. Feats over vague+tropish statements. That's how its done.
If she said the suit increases a thousand-fold, but at best we see is a person lifting twice as much as usual.. would you still say there's an exact 1,000x increase to strength?
So, what are the feats for the suit that back up your argument?
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:16 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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If you read the post this is the first movie it was made Danny didn't out race a space shuttle until the 3rd movie and didn't lift the bus of kids after the movie to. Heck jazz was beating Danny while she was in the suit.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:19 PM |
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BloodRain
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So its featless besides Jack showing a 5x increase?
All its shown on Danny is greatly amplifying his offensive powers aka blasts. Other stats not shown to be as great. And as its Danny's strength and speed in the suit thats of importance here, showings are needed.
Just a heads up on the strength.. if this suit did make a direct increase of 100 to his strength, Danny would only be twice as strong as 'shikai' Ichigo.. who is nothing compared to any of this other forms.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:32 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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Ichigo can't lift 500 tons and his other are fearless in strength older bankai ichigo sliced a mountain sized of a hill and that took him and aizens strikes together. A 1000 skeletons the several ton lifters were on Danny pounding him and Danny just threw them all off at one time.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:38 PM |
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BloodRain
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Strength dominates the guy that lifted the wall. Take that however you want, he's strong enough to rip Danny apart. Ichigo said during the fight that it was he alone that destroyed that hill.
Lol. So thats durability to take hits from 5 tonners and strength to lift their total 40 ton weight off of him?
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:46 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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Prove that wall isn't hollow, prove that ichigo destroyed the hill by himself.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:48 PM |
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BloodRain
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You're back on this again? Wouldnt you rather prove the first, and your own, argument before getting to this petty stage?
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:49 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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No because you wouldn't either and also you can't prove it so it can't be taken into account.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 07:52 PM |
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BloodRain
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 you're being an idiot. You back up your claims, its standard. If you say he's a hundred times stronger and I contest it, you prove why your side is correct in spite of my evidence or prove mine wrong. EG; You said hundred-fold = exactly 100 times stronger, faster, more powerful, everything.. then I show you the evidence starkly against it, you'll have to prove why your vague statement is beyond a shadow of a doubt correct.
The whole "Yeah?! Well your wall isn't even a wall!" argument is becoming too childish to pay attention to. In a debate I don't need to prove a negative without something suggesting theres a need to. Do you have one to suggest the walls are hollow in order for me to state otherwise? No? Then move on and prove your case.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 08:01 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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Well thinking you know more about the suit more than maddie does is idiotic and childish, it was stated that's all the proof I need, you however came up with a random number of how much a wall weighs.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 08:05 PM |
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BloodRain
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..no. That can be all the proof you need, just like the DBZ fanboys needing a guy calling his punch a 'lightspeed fist' and take it as a proven fact, doesn't make it true. Vague tropish statements < feats, always been the way. And the feats don't reach that high. If you can't prove your positive, ya got nothing.
The wall? Rough estimate. I'll draw some numbers up for you now; Jibadou's fist is about 1m, compared to Ichigo. That makes the wall 1m thick. Scaling from that the width would be 11m wide, and as the height is twice the width, 22m high.
22*11*1 = 242m^3* 2,500kg/m^3 (standard rock density) = 605,000 kg = 667 tons.
A barrage of his full force attacks meant nothing to Ichigo.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 09:00 PM |
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Danny Wayne
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Still haven't proved it isn't hollow never stated it wasn't hollow and what does dbz have to do with anything and also that bug guy almost got killed by a tiny cut.
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Dec 3rd, 2013 09:03 PM |
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