Wei, I enjoy this back in forth with quan. You might consider it bait, or trolling or whatever, but I honestly find it fun. I don't really care if quan "wins" by getting replies, and I don't actually want him to go away. I'm sorry if you don't like the threads, though, as I am partially responsible for this.
Now, Legend of Zelda is setting with a creation story, and three creator deities. Their world was created by created by Din, and by extension so would any water that exists on it. It can be argued that by freezing Zora's Domain, or doing anything, really, that Ganondorf is affecting something created by a god. In only the most technical sense, of course. Yay for dumb semantics.
Ah, I see. You're misunderstanding how the Light Spirits work. People don't turn into spirits because their light has been stolen, they turn into spirits because the Twilight has affected them.
Do you remember the Twilight Realm bit I mentioned before? The "turning into spirits" thing is a property of Twilight, which is why it can happen to Link even while he's in the world of light. Recall the part of the game where Link is cursed by Zant to become a wolf permanently, by putting the shard of Twilight magic through his head. If you remember, Link was unable to become human again even after the stolen light was returned. At the same time, Zant also showed that he could call down Twilight even while a Light Spirit was present, and notably he did not steal its light, since Midna was affected by it, and the light remained afterward.
(Exhibit 2: Fused Shadow transformations are Twilight based and happen regardless of whether or not light has been stolen. In fact, Link returns light to the land before fighting the Fused Shadow bosses in every case. The same is true of Stallord and the Mirror Shard bosses.)
So that proves that the theft of light and spirit transformation are separate events. Again, turning into a spirit only happens to those affected by Twilight, and has nothing to do with light being stolen. Further, the light of the Light Spirits is not normal light. It is, in fact, referred to by them as the "Life Force of the Gods" and is noted to be effective against magical effects such as Twilight. Hence the Light Spirits being able to seal the magic of the Interlopers into the Fused Shadows. This is also why the Light Arrows are so powerful: they use the Life Force of the Gods.
Thus, we can establish that the Light Spirits are guardians of something that Immortals verse does not have. Sure, they have normal light, but they don't have the magical anti-darkness protection that the Life Force of the Gods provides. Which means that so far nothing has swayed me from my initial assessment of this thread.
Yes, certain magic causes different reactions. The only way this one transformers the people of Hyrule in general to harmless spirits is when their world is thrown off balance by taking the lights spirits light.
Immortals are far more powerful and don't have guardians of the light. Thats a weakness for a weak realm. Its time to pity Hyrule.
All this tells me is that you need to play Twilight Princess again. Twilight is what turns people into spirits; it has nothing to do with the Life Force of the Gods being taken.
Light Spirits seal away the Immortal's powers. Then Zant solos.
It works against others but it doesn't turn them into helpless spirits due to the explanation given in the game on how it works. Quit putting your foot in your mouth.
Incorrect, Link is also affected by the normal Twilight field at the same time as everyone else. You're misunderstanding how the Light Spirits work. People don't turn into spirits because their light has been stolen, they turn into spirits because the Twilight has affected them.
Do you remember the Twilight Realm bit I mentioned before? The "turning into spirits" thing is a property of Twilight, which is why it can happen to Link even while he's in the world of light. Recall the part of the game where Link is cursed by Zant to become a wolf permanently, by putting the shard of Twilight magic through his head. If you remember, Link was unable to become human again even after the stolen light was returned. At the same time, Zant also showed that he could call down Twilight even while a Light Spirit was present, and notably he did not steal its light, since Midna was affected by it, and the light remained afterward.
(Exhibit 2: Fused Shadow transformations are Twilight based and happen regardless of whether or not light has been stolen. In fact, Link returns light to the land before fighting the Fused Shadow bosses in every case. The same is true of Stallord and the Mirror Shard bosses.)
So that proves that the theft of light and spirit transformation are separate events. Again, turning into a spirit only happens to those affected by Twilight, and has nothing to do with light being stolen. Further, the light of the Light Spirits is not normal light. It is, in fact, referred to by them as the "Life Force of the Gods" and is noted to be effective against magical effects such as Twilight. Hence the Light Spirits being able to seal the magic of the Interlopers into the Fused Shadows. This is also why the Light Arrows are so powerful: they use the Life Force of the Gods.
Thus, we can establish that the Light Spirits are guardians of something that Immortals verse does not have. Sure, they have normal light, but they don't have the magical anti-darkness protection that the Life Force of the Gods provides. Which means that so far nothing has swayed me from my initial assessment of this thread.
incorrect. The only reason it works there is that Hyrule is a world of balance. We don't see that case in Immortals.
I have already decimated this case. There are no feats to gather the light spirit arrows being very powerful from. You are a hyperbole debater and one who doesn't debate objectively. Your end case is always that Zelda wins for the most part no matter how ignorant you are when it comes to the opposition. You reek of bias to the point is insanity.
Zant can't solo anything. He didn't even solo Hyrule yet you come up with the silliest response to a verse with gods that would make him not even be able to register them attacking him.
Incorrect, Link is also affected by the normal Twilight field at the same time as everyone else. You're misunderstanding how the Light Spirits work. People don't turn into spirits because their light has been stolen, they turn into spirits because the Twilight has affected them.
Do you remember the Twilight Realm bit I mentioned before? The "turning into spirits" thing is a property of Twilight, which is why it can happen to Link even while he's in the world of light. Recall the part of the game where Link is cursed by Zant to become a wolf permanently, by putting the shard of Twilight magic through his head. If you remember, Link was unable to become human again even after the stolen light was returned. At the same time, Zant also showed that he could call down Twilight even while a Light Spirit was present, and notably he did not steal its light, since Midna was affected by it, and the light remained afterward.
(Exhibit 2: Fused Shadow transformations are Twilight based and happen regardless of whether or not light has been stolen. In fact, Link returns light to the land before fighting the Fused Shadow bosses in every case. The same is true of Stallord and the Mirror Shard bosses.)
So that proves that the theft of light and spirit transformation are separate events. Again, turning into a spirit only happens to those affected by Twilight, and has nothing to do with light being stolen. Further, the light of the Light Spirits is not normal light. It is, in fact, referred to by them as the "Life Force of the Gods" and is noted to be effective against magical effects such as Twilight. Hence the Light Spirits being able to seal the magic of the Interlopers into the Fused Shadows. This is also why the Light Arrows are so powerful: they use the Life Force of the Gods.
Thus, we can establish that the Light Spirits are guardians of something that Immortals verse does not have. Sure, they have normal light, but they don't have the magical anti-darkness protection that the Life Force of the Gods provides. Which means that so far nothing has swayed me from my initial assessment of this thread.
They turn into spirits due to the fact the magic has taken the light and done so. Return the light and you break the spell.
Due to the fact link has no powers on his own to resist the transformation. Link wasn't a helpless spirit so he remained a wolf but overcame it with light.
Hyperbole. We see light return to break the spell minus the light of the gods crapola excuse.
Again, no as they never could do so without stealing the light and then casting the spell.
Yet because of Zant, Link remained a wolf even after the light was returned. This proves you wrong.
When? The only cases where twilight was pushed back were when the life force of the gods was used, not normal light. Please, by all means show me where normal light did anything.
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