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Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, god Quan, don't you know Link is a lightning timer?

baaaaaaaait

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Originally posted by quanchi112
not all the way through.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
Ok. Did you at least make it past the Water Temple?

Bear with me. This is important.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Saruman took his staff after he beat him. Saruman disarmed him. He proved to best prone to anger, Gandalf.

If he can't win one out of a 100 it is a stomp. You can pretend it isn't while I laugh.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, but it has been years since I played that game. Not relevant to TP.

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Originally posted by Utrigita
So Saruman toke Gandalfs staff because Gandalf had just lost by tossing Saruman through a door... Is that the argument your making? Sorry I forget the circumstances surrounding the fight isn't important only the outcome.

So let me get this straight, now it isn't the fight itself that is important but rather the criteria you choose to judge it from that carries weight? But then again I'm happy to conclude that now Harry Potter owned Voldemort because the circumstances isn't important only the outcome... Or would you care to explain to me how Voldemort in that situation where he duels Harry in the courtyard, wins even a single round?

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
Ganon's stats don't change much.

Anyways, recall how you had to shoot arrows at the sun to achieve fire arrows? I wouldn't go so far as to say they reached it, but it's well beyond your average bow, and Ganon says "f**k you" to this at point blank. Consistently.

Oh, and in case you thought compiled research was bullshit, speaking of Thor, here's his profile.

http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispac...+Profile+-+Thor

Let me know if it checks out.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Alternate versions so it doesn't matter.


Save when he gets owned in the cinemas which is canon outside the gameplay mechanics which have him dodge arrows due to the sword fight which takes place between the two of them.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
Here.

http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispac...ile+-+Ganondorf

People have already done the work for you.

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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
What is this crap? According to this, Ganon has "Class T" strength. Apparently this makes him able to lift roughly the weight of the biggest mountains(Everest, I imagine). Either there's a mistake somewhere in there or the person/people who wrote that article are full of shit.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
Link w/ Golden Gauntlets is supposed to be able to lift mountains. I believe there's something on it in HH.

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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Would that he could, would that he could. Link's best feat with the Gauntlets was lifting a pretty large slab of rock. Impressive, but nothing even remotely close to lifting mountains like Everest. It's hyperbole, pure and simple. If Ganon really had that sort of strength, he'd really only need to punch the ground or smash his hands together to defeat Link or anybody else opposing him.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
I don't get it either. There are people who do, though. You might want to talk to them.

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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I don't think there's anything to get apart from the fact that neither Link nor Ganon possess such Hulk-like levels of strength. If you happen to have access to that wiki, perhaps you should fix this small error.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
I don't, and nor do I have sufficient information to dispute it, as memory only serves me to retain basic (but important) knowledge of Zelda lore. I could call "hyperbole" as well, but they would still have a better case than I.

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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Well, do you recall anything about Ganon actually lifting huge mountains or creating explosions at least in the megaton range with his punches?

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
OBD gets carried away sometimes, some of their calcs are garbage. There is one based on an event that took place in Zelda II for example which I consider useless and a huge stretch.

You are kind of lowballing the GG's though, AG. "Lift" Is not quite the same as "casually toss and violently shatter." The most recent calc on that came out to 91 Gj or something. Given how powerful even temple bosses are, and that we do have a statement concerning the GG's, mountain lifting is not at all far fetched.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117

Anyways, calling "hyperbole" is equally speculative. Even a statement provided by lore is more than simply saying "no". As for striking power, it is loosely tied to lifting strength, though, not the same thing.

Make sense?

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
OBD gets carried away sometimes, some of their calcs are garbage.

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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I think lifting mountains like Everest is totally out of the question. Yeah, sure, lifting isn't the same as throwing or shattering stuff, but it would still make Ganon strong enough to create explosions in at least the megaton range with punches. I think any mountain that Ganon could lift would be so tiny, it wouldn't deserve to be called a mountain in the first place.