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ArtificialGlory
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Originally posted by Sacred 117
You don't create explosions. You simply exert the force equivalent to said explosion.


Sort of, yeah. I mean, what happens when a meteor impacts a planet? Sure, it's not literally loaded with explosives, but it explodes like a mother****er nonetheless.


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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Hyperbole is usually the best explanation when things just don't add up. Like I said, it's true that lifting strength isn't quite the same as striking strength(even though the wiki you linked makes similarly ridiculous claims about Ganon's striking strength), they're still tied together pretty closely. Either way, this would elevate Ganon to the category of the likes of the Hulk or Juggernaut.


You just said it yourself. That claim is made based on lifting strength. Scream kinda just explained the rest.

I wouldn't argue him leveling out with Hulk, who has held together tectonic plates.


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Originally posted by Sacred 117
You just said it yourself. That claim is made based on lifting strength. Scream kinda just explained the rest.

I wouldn't argue him leveling out with Hulk, who has held together tectonic plates.

The striking strength is based on AoL Link breaking some big shit with a non magical hammer, it's basically crap.

Ganondorf is still plenty strong though, but no, this would not put him on the level of Juggs or Hulk, lol.


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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Sort of, yeah. I mean, what happens when a meteor impacts a planet? Sure, it's not literally loaded with explosives, but it explodes like a mother****er nonetheless.


The only similarity shared to an explosion would be concussive force. I only ever recall meteors "exploding" in fiction for the sake of dramatic effect.

Besides that, Relativity states that nothing with mass can travel at light speed, and if it were to do so, it would f**k up the Earth's weather patterns. Should I do away with Super Sonic's speed because this effect is absent?


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ArtificialGlory
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Originally posted by Sacred 117
You just said it yourself. That claim is made based on lifting strength. Scream kinda just explained the rest.

I wouldn't argue him leveling out with Hulk, who has held together tectonic plates.


The claim was also made on striking strength.

Well, I suppose that depends on how pissed off the Hulk gets.

Either way, if Ganon manages to get his hands on his opponents in this thread, he's still strong enough to crumple them like paper.


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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The striking strength is based on AoL Link breaking some big shit with a non magical hammer, it's basically crap.

Ganondorf is still plenty strong though, but no, this would not put him on the level of Juggs or Hulk, lol.


My point being if he could, in fact, lift a mountain, he should reasonably be able to break one as well, right?


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Originally posted by Sacred 117
The only similarity shared to an explosion would be concussive force. I only ever recall meteors "exploding" in fiction for the sake of dramatic effect.

Besides that, Relativity states that nothing with mass can travel at light speed, and if it were to do so, it would f**k up the Earth's weather patterns. Should I do away with Super Sonic's speed because this effect is absent?


For all intents and purposes, meteors explode both in fiction and reality.

Well, you know, fiction has a way of ****ing with the laws of physics like that.


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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
The claim was also made on striking strength.

Well, I suppose that depends on how pissed off the Hulk gets.

Either way, if Ganon manages to get his hands on his opponents in this thread, he's still strong enough to crumple them like paper.


The two are loosely tied, as we both agreed.

Hulk is consistently above the likes of Ganon in strength. He ranks two tiers above Ganon simply because of it.

Yeah, we basically established that early on.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
The spell isn't stopped by clothing and wizards like, have suits of armor everywhere in their shit but never put it on. I'd think if it was that easy they'd wear it, as wizards have been running around since the medieval times and have armor readily available even in modern times, yet still can't block AK.


Provide proof it for some reason can't when we know solid, durable materials can block it.

Not that he needs to.

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For all intents and purposes, meteors explode both in fiction and reality.

Well, you know, fiction has a way of ****ing with the laws of physics like that.


Right. I was wondering.

That's kinda my point. Sometimes, you have to put this kind of thought into it and devise it yourself. Though, to be fair, it is usually better to actually see it first hand.


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Originally posted by Sacred 117
The two are loosely tied, as we both agreed.

Hulk is consistently above the likes of Ganon in strength. He ranks two tiers above Ganon simply because of it.

Yeah, we basically established that early on.


How loosely? Being able to lift Everest would make Ganon absurdly strong in all ways that pertain to physical strength.


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The striking strength is based on AoL Link breaking some big shit with a non magical hammer, it's basically crap.

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Either way, if Ganon manages to get his hands on his opponents in this thread, he's still strong enough to crumple them like paper.


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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
How loosely? Being able to lift Everest would make Ganon absurdly strong in all ways that pertain to physical strength.


Well, that... basically answers the question. If he can pick up a mountain, he should be strong enough to send a similar amount of force through it.


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Originally posted by NemeBro
Provide proof it for some reason can't when we know solid, durable materials can block it.

Not that he needs to.


I already said, it can get through cloths no prob. I see no reason why armor would be any different and I have give reasons why I find it logically unlikely. I mean, I know the Ministry is incompetent, but if it were really that easy you'd think Aurors would just wear some leather or something. laughing


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Apparently tombstones and wooden tables are good enough to block the Killing Curse. Maybe it's the thickness of the object, not its sturdiness, that matters here. Or perhaps how close it is to your body.


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Ganon's fists are pretty thick.


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Ganon's fists are pretty thick.


Yea, but they're a part of his body. So either Ganon dies, his fists are vapourized, or nothing happens. If Ganon is too powerful to be hurt by the curse, then the whole thing is moot.


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Ganondorf is not only too powerful to be affected, he has literally deflected magic with his pimp hand. If Voldemort uses AK it's being reflected back to him.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
I already said, it can get through cloths no prob. I see no reason why armor would be any different and I have give reasons why I find it logically unlikely. I mean, I know the Ministry is incompetent, but if it were really that easy you'd think Aurors would just wear some leather or something. laughing
Cloth. Not armour.

And yeah, the Ministry is apparently super incompetent. Even if armour wouldn't work, a Riot Shield almost certainly would.

Muggles are by canon way more smarter than wizards.

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Heh, I thought of the riot shield too.


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