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Yeah, we should really update that now. Lol.

Edit: I wouldn't have guessed NemeBro was part of the LLLC. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: (Position: World Domination)


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NemeBro is truly powerful.


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Prove it.
Play the game again, Scentsy party.


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Originally posted by BloodRain
The Hylian, and the humans, and the Gorons, and the Zora etc.. Ahhh good, so thats a concession to Twilight only having affect when there's no Light spirits.

Implications are odd like that. Without seeing it resit, we don't know if the arrows would bounce off its hide or just make a small dent etc. All that tells us is that its more resistant than a human-level creature, which we already established. Meaning we're where we were to begin with; the Balrog has the durability to resist human-level damage.
Only turns those into spirits when light is stolen. My claim has not changed.

Dorf doesn't nor does Link so what is your point.


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Play the game again, Scentsy party.


I've played it more times than you have.

Doesn't change the fact that your claims require evidence.


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It specifically means that is why they are stuck as spirits because the balance is upset.


This does not apply to other worlds.

That's not what was said, they're not even talking about Twilight when that happens, they're talking about Link being transformed by magic that is explicitly not Twilight magic.

Other worlds do not usually have defenses, you're right, which makes it much easier for Ganon.


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Play the game again, Scentsy party.
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I've played it more times than you have.

Doesn't change the fact that your claims require evidence.
The quote is in the game. Play through it again.


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That's not what was said, they're not even talking about Twilight when that happens, they're talking about Link being transformed by magic that is explicitly not Twilight magic.

Other worlds do not usually have defenses, you're right, which makes it much easier for Ganon.
No, they are talking about the residents of Hyrule.


False. Only applies to Hyrule.


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Only turns those into spirits when light is stolen. My claim has not changed.

Dorf doesn't nor does Link so what is your point.

Concede that it can affect any? Excellent. Now, back to the other topic; wrong. You failed to address the fact that Twilight existed in a perfectly balanced world before the Light Spirits were even created, meaning they don't need a realm to have light spirits taken away, they react independently. Get around to countering this, you're taking too long.


What's this? Is this a refusal to give evidence with a thinly veiled attempt in redirection? How about we get back to the point at hand and you tell me if you agree or disagree with the Balrog's durability only being human+.


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The quote is in the game. Play through it again.


There are at least 2 "world of balance" quotes in Twilight Princess. Specify which one you're talking about, please. Also, post it here.


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Concede that it can affect any? Excellent. Now, back to the other topic; wrong. You failed to address the fact that Twilight existed in a perfectly balanced world before the Light Spirits were even created, meaning they don't need a realm to have light spirits taken away, they react independently. Get around to countering this, you're taking too long.


What's this? Is this a refusal to give evidence with a thinly veiled attempt in redirection? How about we get back to the point at hand and you tell me if you agree or disagree with the Balrog's durability only being human+.
I did concede anything. At this point you are a blabbering fool. Twilight never turned anyone into a soul without taking away the light.

The Balrog's durability is vastly greater than Link's that is for sure.


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There are at least 2 "world of balance" quotes in Twilight Princess. Specify which one you're talking about, please. Also, post it here.
If I have time to look it up I will. If you want post them both, girl.


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I did concede anything. At this point you are a blabbering fool. Twilight never turned anyone into a soul without taking away the light.

The Balrog's durability is vastly greater than Link's that is for sure.

Derp, it existed before the Sacred Beasts existed. Wait. Don't tell me, Twilight was made to balance with something that didn't exist yet, right? Would love for you to prove the fact that spirits specifically created to push away Twilight mean anything to its own nature. Go on, I'll wait. Again.

Ohh right, the evidence that is your opinion? Well thats fantastic, now back it up lad.


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Derp, it existed before the Sacred Beasts existed. Wait. Don't tell me, Twilight was made to balance with something that didn't exist yet, right? Would love for you to prove the fact that spirits specifically created to push away Twilight mean anything to its own nature. Go on, I'll wait. Again.

Ohh right, the evidence that is your opinion? Well thats fantastic, now back it up lad.
That is the effect it has on their people when the light is taken away. For people to remain helpless ghosts their light source had to be taken away and twilight introduced.


Tis isn't hard to grasp, Hyrule weakling.


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Except it was doing it's jazz before the beasts were created, hence the need to create them. Do you believe that the beasts are some cog in the natural balance? If so, what's making you believe so? They ate nothing more than the bouncers of the land. If a land doesn't have them? Well though shit.

However if you could find me a quote, maybe your opinion would hold any water.


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Except it was doing it's jazz before the beasts were created, hence the need to create them. Do you believe that the beasts are some cog in the natural balance? If so, what's making you believe so? They ate nothing more than the bouncers of the land. If a land doesn't have them? Well though shit.

However if you could find me a quote, maybe your opinion would hold any water.
It is magic but who did it turn into a helpless spirit prior to the Hylians being turned.


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It is magic.. meaning what exactly? That was the whole point in sealing them away.


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It is magic.. meaning what exactly? That was the whole point in sealing them away.
It is magic that can only turn anyone into a helpless spirit if the light is stolen. That isn't its only effect.


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Quote and prove this claim.


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