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zopzop
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CA Superman should stomp.


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In COMICVINE, Debaters said that CA Superman is only bigger than 52 universes only in monitor's realm, and CA superman was damaged beyond repair by only heat of 10 billion suns and a galaxy have a TRILLION stars. So, CA superman is overrated, He is weaker than IG Thanos ,Galactus with UN, Chaos King,etc
What do you think about this?

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Originally posted by CatL18
In COMICVINE, Debaters said that CA Superman is only bigger than 52 universes only in monitor's realm, and CA superman was damaged beyond repair by only heat of 10 billion suns and a galaxy have a TRILLION stars. So, CA superman is overrated, He is weaker than IG Thanos ,Galactus with UN, Chaos King,etc
What do you think about this?


CA was far bigger than just 52 Universes. He was able to actually hold the bottle that held the 52 in the palm of his hand, that description showed him to be far bigger.

Also it wasn't just 52 Universe he held, it was the 52 plus all the alternate realm like Elseworlds. The 52 were only the 52 main Universes.

Thanos even with the IG would get stomped, he needs the HOTU to wins. He kills both Galactus in CK.

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Originally posted by CatL18
In COMICVINE, Debaters said that CA Superman is only bigger than 52 universes only in monitor's realm, and CA superman was damaged beyond repair by only heat of 10 billion suns and a galaxy have a TRILLION stars. So, CA superman is overrated, He is weaker than IG Thanos ,Galactus with UN, Chaos King,etc
What do you think about this?


thumb up Only the writer's interview is what made CA Superman seemed powerful.Yet Death claimed CA Superman roll eyes (sarcastic) after battling Mandrakk.Even the phrase "will adapt to anything" wasn't even shown.So how come CA Superman didn't adapt to Death?


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thumb up Only the writer's interview is what made CA Superman seemed powerful.Yet Death claimed CA Superman roll eyes (sarcastic) after battling Mandrakk.Even the phrase "will adapt to anything" wasn't even shown.So how come CA Superman didn't adapt to Death?

You seem to be trolling stick out tongue

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Originally posted by CatL18
In COMICVINE, Debaters said that CA Superman is only bigger than 52 universes only in monitor's realm,
This is true. The Monitors reside in the 4th Dimension-- which is also where Superman and Mandrakk's battle took place. Because the 4th dimension is(obviously) in a higher dimensional plane than the mainstream 3-D multiverse, Superman was much larger there. That's why the entire Limbo dimension was about the size of his hand when viewing it from 4-D space:
http://imgur.com/Z1TecAM
http://imgur.com/GhgvZDH
He was just scaled up. Simple.

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and CA superman was damaged beyond repair by only heat of 10 billion suns and a galaxy have a TRILLION stars. So, CA superman is overrated
This is a horrendously false myth.

Here is the entire battle between CA Supes and Mandrakk:
http://imgur.com/jL7FF8w
http://imgur.com/hH0t1vV
http://imgur.com/eH97TfH
http://imgur.com/eh02McS
http://imgur.com/1IGSW8j
http://imgur.com/D2Trd9Z
http://imgur.com/wQlYwv4

In the first scan Mandrakk blasts Superman with "the heat of 10 billion suns." And while said attack was sufficient to cause Supes some degree of pain(ergo his "ARRRRHH" exclamation) it ultimately caused no lasting(key word) damage, as Supes was already back fighting Mandrakk on the very next page and did not appear to have sustained any obvious external injuries. It wasn't until the end of their battle(after Mandrakk had successfully delivered a few more attacks of unknown-level power) that we saw/learned that Supes had been "wounded beyond repair."

Point: the CV'ers are wrong. smile


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the CV'ers are wrong. smile

That is quite a common occurrence for people who post on that site.


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I've never browsed through their CBvF. Is it as bad as I hear?


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Let's just say that majority of the posters there can be easily mistaken to be Supra's dupe accounts on that site. Often single posters can get away with making dozens of socks on that board and go undetected/unpunished for years. The forums over there are also very poorly moderated. Though there are quite a few knowledgeable posters over there, most of them are highly biased towards DC characters(more so than people over here are for Marvel characters). People are also praised and championed for abusing and trolling mods as well. Then there is the format of that site(which I've heard got even more worse in recent times). Plus they also seem to have some sort of a grudge against KMC posters, as they're always accusing our lot of taking scans out of context, arguing out of ignorance, being poor debaters over all and how this site is oh so much ridiculous compared to god's design known as comicvine.

All in all a very bad board to post.thumb down


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Wow, glad I've never given it a try.


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Seems right up your alley

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Yes, as I'm sure you've noticed over the years, most of my 'debating queues' come straight from Supra. thumb up


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I put Supra's posts on my wall and study them personally. How can I integrate Supra's posting style into my own?
Instead of a Justin Bieber poster I have a 100x100 picture of the words "Godspeed" on my wall. Anything to be like him.

Supra's posts should replace the advertisements on this site IMO.


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Truly he makes me want to be a better me. Not just here, mind you, but irl as well.

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Originally posted by Galan007
This is true. The Monitors reside in the 4th Dimension-- which is also where Superman and Mandrakk's battle took place. Because the 4th dimension is(obviously) in a higher dimensional plane than the mainstream 3-D multiverse, Superman was much larger there. That's why the entire Limbo dimension was about the size of his hand when viewing it from 4-D space:
http://imgur.com/Z1TecAM
http://imgur.com/GhgvZDH
He was just scaled up. Simple.

This is a horrendously false myth.

Here is the entire battle between CA Supes and Mandrakk:
http://imgur.com/jL7FF8w
http://imgur.com/hH0t1vV
http://imgur.com/eH97TfH
http://imgur.com/eh02McS
http://imgur.com/1IGSW8j
http://imgur.com/D2Trd9Z
http://imgur.com/wQlYwv4

In the first scan Mandrakk blasts Superman with "the heat of 10 billion suns." And while said attack was sufficient to cause Supes some degree of pain(ergo his "ARRRRHH" exclamation) it ultimately caused no lasting(key word) damage, as Supes was already back fighting Mandrakk on the very next page and did not appear to have sustained any obvious external injuries. It wasn't until the end of their battle(after Mandrakk had successfully delivered a few more attacks of unknown-level power) that we saw/learned that Supes had been "wounded beyond repair."

Point: the CV'ers are wrong. smile

Thank you Galan.
So, how powerful is CA superman? I understand CA superman is weaker than Michael. But, Is he stronger than COIE Anti Monitor in dawn of time?

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Consider that after Rox Ogama "drank from the bitter cup of Mandrakk", and transformed into Mandrakk II, he became powerful enough to kill/drain Spectre and Radiant-- God's wrath and mercy incarnate. Remember, the same story had Spectre finally realize the extent of his role/power...

"They call me God's Spirit of Vengeance, but I am more than that. I am God's mighty fist. I am God's strength made manifest...":
http://imgur.com/oRGAkJk

...But despite killing Spectre/Radiant, he(Mandrakk II) was still much less powerful than the original incarnation of Mandrakk(Dax Novu), who CA Superman was stalemating. Then tack on the metaphysical 'good story vs. bad story'(in the literal sense) overtone of the book, and I'd say CA Supes was intended to be immensely powerful.


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I'd say CA Supes is no less than top 5 among all time DC characters.

Too bad for him Mike's a hair higher.


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Originally posted by Galan007
Consider that after Rox Ogama "drank from the bitter cup of Mandrakk", and transformed into Mandrakk II, he became powerful enough to kill/drain Spectre and Radiant-- God's wrath and mercy incarnate. Remember, the same story had Spectre finally realize the extent of his role/power...

"They call me God's Spirit of Vengeance, but I am more than that. I am God's mighty fist. I am God's strength made manifest...":
http://imgur.com/oRGAkJk

...But despite killing Spectre/Radiant, he(Mandrakk II) was still much less powerful than the original incarnation of Mandrakk(Dax Novu), who CA Superman was stalemating. Then tack on the metaphysical 'good story vs. bad story'(in the literal sense) overtone of the book, and I'd say CA Supes was intended to be immensely powerful.

Thank you very much Galan.
I'm not still reading Final Crisis tie-ins. so I didn't know Spectre realizes the extent of his power.

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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I put Supra's posts on my wall and study them personally. How can I integrate Supra's posting style into my own?
Instead of a Justin Bieber poster I have a 100x100 picture of the words "Godspeed" on my wall. Anything to be like him.

Supra's posts should replace the advertisements on this site IMO.


Hmm sounds like you have the problem

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Considering I have never spoken to you before, yes you can go **** yourself.

Galan included the occultist as well. And heres $1.25 as well.


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Originally posted by Cogito
I'd say CA Supes is no less than top 5 among all time DC characters.

Too bad for him Mike's a hair higher.
Meh honestly I think this could go either way. Like I said it depends on whether or not you believe that the monitors were as powerful as they were said to be and Mandrakk being at the top of their tier list. Honestly I feel like the monitors are something like celestial tier/higher considering there is one per universe and that Mandrakk was to the Monitor's what Scathan the Approver was to celestials. I don't know if you could call it an apt comparison but just some food for thought as beyond being crafters for DC-52 I don't know where to really place them in terms of power.

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