I posted scans from the MANGA already:
But since clicking on links in order to view said scans is apparently too complex for you. Here are some pretty pictures for you to look at(you don't really even need to read the dialogue, which is a plus for you): (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image)
As anyone with at least 1/8 of a brain can see: Vegetto powered up to a SSJ almost immediately-- he did NOT throw a single punch at Buuhan in his base level. The anime scenes you posted are primarily NON-CANON FILLER., and therefore inadmissible as evidence. Simple.
Again, you are terrible at this.
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I'm arguing screen feats as obvious from the beginning, if you want to bring in the rest of this stuff, there is no point in continuing this debate because they do not match up to what actually happened on screen.
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Manga is more cannon than anime. Simple. It was written by AT, and the anime was not(completely). It's easier to distinguish manga cannon, as it's all cannon, than anime cannon, as some can be filler. However, as I stated before, going SSJ from base fusion means nothing, unless Gotenks is stronger than Gogeta AND Vegetto, since base Goten and Trunks fused into SSJ3 Gotenks.
I'm not, nor will ever/have ever be/been your "bro".
There is nothing to agree or disagree about, it is simple factual CANNON, that you are COMPLETELY ignoring, which makes you look like a ****ing dumb ass.
Old Kai stated Vegetto was superior. Clear, cut, end of discussion, and you only avoided the debate because you KNOW this, and are too much of a retard fanboy to admit that your favorite character LOSES. Vegetto wins. That's all folks.
Because he likes the name Gogeta more than Vegeto. His name doesn't matter at all.
And yes the manga is more canon than the anime as that is the original source. And in the manga Vegeto show he doesn't have to waste time getting used to his body or waiting to power up.
Mind you none of this truly matters. Since you've started both of them in Super Saiyan then it doesn't matter. And Super Saiyan or not Vegeto in his base utterly outclassed a character who is more impressive than Janemba.
Janemba's greatest claim to fame is beating up SSJ 3 Goku.
Ultimate Gohan, or Mystic Gohan if you prefer, is the strongest unfused character in DBZ and he is a portion of the Buu that Vegeto outclassed in every way.
@ Supra: Gogeta has no feats other than beating Janemba. Janemba barely beat Goku, who was weaker than Buutenks, who was much weaker than Buuhan, who got shat on by Vegetto. Vegetto has better feats, AND is stated to be superior to Gogeta. There's not even anything to argue.
My name has nothing to do with this. It's not a matter of perspective. Old Kai STATED Vegetto was superior because he didn't have a time limit, so... he is. I just happen to like Gogeta better. Just like I like Naruto much more than I like Yamcha, but know that in a fight, Yamcha would blow up Naruto's entire planet, if he didn't want to solo the entire cast of Naruto(which he easily could). If I named myself Narutosomethin'orother, I wouldn't argue that Naruto would beat Goku, lol. It's simple, clear logic. Gogeta loses. Vegetto wins.
Yes, some of DBZ isn't cannon. Just like the Garlic Jr. saga, or when Goku got hurt from Krillin tossing a rock at him as a SSJ, or when Goku said IT was light speed. All that's in the manga though, IS cannon. It's very simple.
Also, SSJ3 is in no way, shape or form "useless". Without it, Goku would have lost to kid Buu and not weakened him enough to hit him with a spirit bomb, OR been able to stall fat Buu while Trunks found the radar, AND Gotenks would have been easily killed by Super Buu and the world would have been destroyed along with Dende. How can you even say that a transformation that gives you a 2,500 times boost is useless?
@ AuraAngel: Thank you! Finally, someone other than me explains to him that my username has nothing to do with this!
Kai's have been proven they no nothing about the Saijen and constantly wrong about them. Their word is a solid as Chi Chi's understanding of a Super Saijen.
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But they know their fusions as Old Kai is a Potara fused character.
Not that we really need the Old Kai's words. If it's by feats Vegeto still wins by virtue of a) his fight being longer so he gets more feats, b) his opponent is stronger and by feats that is more impressive, and c) he proved he could probably have beaten Buuhan in base in the anime which means his Super Saiyan form in this thread is hella powerful.
So two stupid Kai's who can't even defend their own realm's fuse and become an even stupider Kai who's more worthless then prior two and we are just supposed to take their word for it?
Point in proof, they said the fusion was permeant and it could never be reversed till they saw a higher power could undo what they thought could never be undone.
SS Gogeta is superior in every way, shape and form.
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