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So two stupid Kai's who can't even defend their own realm's fuse and become an even stupider Kai who's more worthless then prior two and we are just supposed to take their word for it?

Point in proof, they said the fusion was permeant and it could never be reversed till they saw a higher power could undo what they thought could never be undone.

SS Gogeta is superior in every way, shape and form.


Yes. A normal soldier in the battlefield is probably more capable in a fist fight than the President but chances are he does not understand the machinations of the government to the same degree.

Faulty logic. Buu had never absorbed a fuse character before so they had no way of knowing that it would diffuse them. You can't know every limit to a thing.

Why is he better?


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Yes. A normal soldier in the battlefield is probably more capable in a fist fight than the President but chances are he does not understand the machinations of the government to the same degree.

Faulty logic. Buu had never absorbed a fuse character before so they had no way of knowing that it would diffuse them. You can't know every limit to a thing.


Your proving my point even more, they are constantly wrong about their "we know everything" because they are constantly being out classed by superior fighters.

Their knowledge is not all knowing, their knowledge is not concrete, their knowledge is a solid as Vegetto's "permanent" fusion was.

Kai's know nothing other then what they have been told and when they are wrong, what happens? They fall flat on their faces as Akira happily shows them as doing.

All they do is sit and watch from crystal ball.


I stated alraedy why Gogeta is superior

Vegetto Facts
1. If he was the most powerful warrior ever created and the fusion was permanent, how did Buu override it. (Logic failed)
2. If he was so powerful why did he have to test his powers out and let Buu wreck him for like 20 minutes before he got serous.
3. If he was so powerful why did he not win?

Gogeta Facts
1. Fusion is superior because it does not have to be permanent and both characters can live on separately.
2. Gogeta has never lost a fight.
3. Gogeta did not have to test his powers out at all, he got down to business and defeated Janemba within a minute. Janemba could not even sense his movements.
4. Gogeta beat Janemba without breaking a sweat. And he summoned a spirit bomb in seconds. Something Vegetto was never shown to be able to do which is the most powerful attack in the universe.


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Your proving my point even more, they are constantly wrong about their "we know everything" because they are constantly being out classed by superior fighters.

Their knowledge is not all knowing, their knowledge is not concrete, their knowledge is a solid as Vegetto's "permanent" fusion was.

Kai's know nothing other then what they have been told and when they are wrong, what happens? They fall flat on their faces as Akira happily shows them as doing.

All they do is sit and watch from crystal ball.


They are not constantly wrong. They are capable of being wrong just like everyone. Goku said that he could beat Kid Buu if given a minute of rest but failed to when he got the time. He made a mistake because he didn't know of the strain it would place on his real body. Does that make everything Goku says or does wrong because he happened to not take something into account? erm


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I stated alraedy why Gogeta is superior

Vegetto Facts
1. If he was the most powerful warrior ever created and the fusion was permanent, how did Buu override it. (Logic failed)
2. If he was so powerful why did he have to test his powers out and let Buu wreck him for like 20 minutes before he got serous.
3. If he was so powerful why did he not win?


1. Simple: Buu counteracts the magic of the Potara. Vegeto's power was enough to make it irrelevant whether he fought as himself or a jawbreaker. Does that mean Buu's changing into candy attack is worthless? Not at all.
2. Because he was cocky and didn't feel like winning immediately. This is nothing new for the Saiyans. They don't enter every encounter fully powered up and ready to kill shit immediately. They waste time because they want a good fight.
3. He did. If you can honestly look at the fight and say that Vegeto was not superior in every single way to his opponent then you're fooling yourself. He didn't blow up Buu because he flat out didn't want to. He got absorbed because he wanted to get absorbed. This is all right there for you to see in the show and manga.

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Gogeta Facts
1. Fusion is superior because it does not have to be permanent and both characters can live on separately.
2. Gogeta has never lost a fight.
3. Gogeta did not have to test his powers out at all, he got down to business and defeated Janemba within a minute. Janemba could not even sense his movements.
4. Gogeta beat Janemba without breaking a sweat. And he summoned a spirit bomb in seconds. Something Vegetto was never shown to be able to do which is the most powerful attack in the universe.


1. Totally irrelevant to this fight.
2. He has to Omega Shenron. smile
3. Because it was a fight written to be the climax to a movie which can't allow a character to spend ages dicking around like the anime.
4. Janemba's only claim to fame was beating SSJ3 Goku who, according to you, is shit. Spirit Bomb won't work on Vegeto so that is largely irrelevant. And if you want that then Gogeta has barely showed any moves, most important being the Instant Transmission.

So nope.


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Now we are talking about SS4 Gogeta?

SS3 is complete garbage and everyone knows it. Not even Goku could or has mastered it..He always reverts back to base to get the job done.

Its a pumped up USSJ on steroids with horrible power drain.

Its Akira's way of giving us something else besides base, but when push comes to fail Goku ditches it gets it done in SS.


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Nah. I'm just pointing out that he has indeed lost a fight.

Super Gogeta has not but neither has Super Vegeto since everything went how he wanted.


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Nah. I'm just pointing out that he has indeed lost a fight.

Super Gogeta has not but neither has Super Vegeto since everything went how he wanted.


Dude he figured out later on thats what he needed to do, thats not a +1 to Vegetto or a win. That's just how the story evolved in finding out what needed to be done.


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Did everything go as Vegeto wanted? Because that is pretty much a win. no expression


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The sheer number of "wins" doesn't matter with the lame technical définitions you're pulling anyways. Move on.


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The sheer number of "wins" doesn't matter with the lame technical définitions you're pulling anyways. Move on.


Ok fair enough.. some one prove his power is above Gogeta's in any way shape or form.

The fact that he defeated Janemba in seconds stands alone as a superior feat then anything Vegetto did.

He pulled that power in seconds with that spirit attack.


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He effortlessly showed himself capable of killing an opponent much stronger than Janemba.


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He effortlessly showed himself capable of killing an opponent much stronger than Janemba.


Janemba regained in seconds after every beating.


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Janemba regained in seconds after every beating.


Oh no if only Buuhan had shown the ability to do that.


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Oh no if only Buuhan had shown the ability to do that.


I mean Buu...lmao. They both pink man!! Gets confusing at times. laughing


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Buuhan did indeed regen after getting hurt.

Does that mean that he was anywhere close to posing a threat to Vegeto? Lol no. Vegeto could have killed him at any time.


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Buuhan did indeed regen after getting hurt.

Does that mean that he was anywhere close to posing a threat to Vegeto? Lol no. Vegeto could have killed him at any time.


But he didn't and the permeant fusion was not so permanent.


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But he didn't and the permeant fusion was not so permanent.


Again, Buu's anatomy was what dissolved the fusion, and no one had ever been inside Buu and lived, so no one could have known it was possible. Otherwise, the fusion is permanent. Gogeta would have no way of even beginning to dissolve it because he doesn't have any feats or statements suggesting he could do anything even close to that level. Gogeta is inferior to Vegetto, it was stated in the manga and the anime = cannon.

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Again, Buu's anatomy was what dissolved the fusion, and no one had ever been inside Buu and lived, so no one could have known it was possible. Otherwise, the fusion is permanent. Gogeta would have no way of even beginning to dissolve it because he doesn't have any feats or statements suggesting he could do anything even close to that level. Gogeta is inferior to Vegetto, it was stated in the manga and the anime = cannon.


Another point proving Kai's don't know everything. And their knowledge will always be rivaled by Goku and Vegeta and whoever they fight that's at that level.


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But he didn't and the permeant fusion was not so permanent.


Because Vegeto did not want to kill him. And the Fusion being permanent or not is quite honestly irrelevant and something you need to stop banging on about. In this thread both are permanent.


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Because Vegeto did not want to kill him. And the Fusion being permanent or not is quite honestly irrelevant and something you need to stop banging on about. In this thread both are permanent.


Gogeta summons his attack in 3 seconds and seperates or kills Vegetto just like he did Janemba.


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