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Originally posted by BloodRain
What does weight of the weapon matter when we already know the force?


This is like saying a punch from Sauron is like a drunken brawler as he's never shown all of that 10-man-launching power in his hands without his mace.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
...Okay, read my post again. Slowly this time. Let it really sink in.

Whether one uses a carton of juice or swings a car around, if we see the final form of the force, what it weighs is less important (as knowing the weight serves only the purpose of determine the force, which we already have, meaning its useless info (unless the main feat is listing said weapon)). E.g:

Sauron swings a giant mace around with the force to smack ten men around.

The force here is how Sauron applies it, in this case the results we see of smacking them away.

Same as;

Link swings a metal ball around with the force to smack a giant ice chink around.




Also: This is like saying a punch from Sauron is like a drunken brawler as he's never shown all of that 10-man-launching power in his hands without his mace.

Do you agree with this?

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Originally posted by BloodRain
...one more time, for those that didn't pay attention;

Weight is a factor in determining force.

But we already have the force.

So while weight is useful, its nothing to take note of because we already have the final force delivered

Its redundant.



Also: This is like saying a punch from Sauron is like a drunken brawler as he's never shown all of that 10-man-launching power in his hands without his mace.

Do you agree with this?

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Originally posted by BloodRain
You're right, he does far more with lighter weapons~~



"Also: This is like saying a punch from Sauron is like a drunken brawler as he's never shown all of that 10-man-launching power in his hands without his mace.

Do you agree with this?"

Stop running from me.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Are you, or are you not saying that Sauron has normal human striking strength when using anything but that mace?

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Oh no no no, don't try to deviate the topic on me. Stay on track.


You're saying that Link has the strength to swing a weapon and produce massive force, but are then saying that he cannot apply this strength to anything else.

To counter, I'm saying the exact same for Sauron.

So does Sauron magically lose all strength when not holding a mace?

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Give me one logical reason why he loses his strength when using a sword instead.

Especially when saying Sauron wouldn't lose any.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Which means you're saying the force exerted to swing said weapon and produce the feat cannot be used on another weapon, even through the same amount of force :l


Remember, the force required comes from the person no matter what. Strength -> medium/weapon -> external force.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Quan, that's not how force works. At all. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it false.

Simple question; Where does the force to knock the men or the ice come from? Hint; the impact zone.

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Originally posted by BloodRain
That's right, the answer to the impact zone that releases the force is " the weapon".

Next question. Where does the force come from to swing said weapon which releases the total force?