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How Bad do you think the Harry Potter movies are?
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| VERY BAD! I CANNOT SIT THROUGH THE MOVIE. |
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37.50% |
| AWFUL. I WANT TO SUE HOW EVER MADE THIS MOVIE. |
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| TERRIBLE. I WANT TO KILL MYSELF WHEN I SEE THIS MOVIE. |
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| HORRIBLE. I ACTUALLY KILL MYSELF WHEN I SEE THIS MOVIE. I AM A GHOST FROM THE PAST. |
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62.50% |
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100% |
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REXXXX
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Of course, he lives in England. 
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May 6th, 2003 09:26 PM |
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turin
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k well i guess it was a smart move on there part since i dont have any clue what a philosophers stone is. i mean i can make a guess just by the name, but is there like a legend or myth or something to do with a philosophers stone i dont know about that goes beyond what the name suggests?
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and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromë himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar.
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May 6th, 2003 10:47 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Yes, it is a mythological reference.
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May 6th, 2003 10:53 PM |
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REXXXX
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Care to elaborate, Ush? Did she steal the idea from mythology?
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May 7th, 2003 01:00 AM |
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Ushgarak
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'Steal' is a ridiculously harsh word to use, seeing as The Philosopher's Stone is one of those general mythological things that all fantasy draws from. It is no more copying to use it than to use Wizards, dragons or Magic Wands.
It is simply the same given to the fabled material that could turn lead to gold and give everlasting life. The search for such materials obsessed people for centuries in the past.
Potter put it in, rather directly, as have dozens of things in the past. What it is is described in the book just as all the other weird stuff is and no readers in any part of the world other than the US thought the title was a problem. The original title would almost certainly not have been a problem in the US either, it all comes back to the bloody publishers.
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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"
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May 12th, 2003 12:38 PM |
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REXXXX
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Location: San Diego Moderator |
Oh, the gold and everlasting life thingy...
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May 13th, 2003 02:28 AM |
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kjm87
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I never realised just how copied Harry Potter was. That book which JK Rowling stopped from being published somewhere - Tanya Grotter - who was very similar to Harry is no different to what she wrote being similar to LOTR. Wish I'd known that earlier and I'd of never bought the books.
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May 13th, 2003 03:48 PM |
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mah
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oh, pulease! that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard today. the situation you described is in no way similar to harry potter vs. LOTR. you're far off the hook here, mister, get some common sense into your judgement.
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May 13th, 2003 07:27 PM |
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cermiestar
kitten
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Location: London |
Yeah! whatever "mah" said!
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May 13th, 2003 07:44 PM |
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turin
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Gender: Male
Location: Hithlum |
mah!!! i cant beleive you would attack someone like that just for sharing their opinion. telling someone that they need some common sense, when all they are doing is voicing an opinion is ridiculous.
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and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromë himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar.
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May 13th, 2003 09:31 PM |
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mah
J-type 327 Nubian
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Location: Florø, Norway |
but someone who has no grasp of reality needs to get common sense in their arguments! it's not an opinion it's untruthful nonsense, and that's a fact.
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May 14th, 2003 01:54 PM |
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REXXXX
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Location: San Diego Moderator |
I agree!
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May 14th, 2003 02:39 PM |
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turin
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well saying that they have no grasp of reality is kind of harsh considering the only thing being argued is a difference of opinion. you state your views as fact or i should say that apposing views are nonsense is fact. actually there is really no facts in the argument, it is all a matter of opinion. no one knows what the authors intents were when writing Potter, so it is up in the air.
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and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromë himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar.
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May 14th, 2003 03:47 PM |
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mah
J-type 327 Nubian
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it's not much up in the air though, is it? we're talking about a story, Tanya Grotter, clearly a blueprint copy intent on making money cause of the equal title. downright plagiarism in other words. on the other side is arguments about Harry Potters similiarities to LOTR. highly questionable at best; sure it's fantasy, and there are wizards; and gee! some even have the same type of typical fantasy names. woop-de-fecking-doo!
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May 14th, 2003 08:50 PM |
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yerssot
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Tanya Grotter?
if that's the russian version mah, it's not plagiarism, because they simple don't have authers rights in Russia
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May 14th, 2003 08:51 PM |
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mah
J-type 327 Nubian
Gender: Male
Location: Florø, Norway |
please read the previous posts in the thread
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May 14th, 2003 08:54 PM |
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Tired-Hiker
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If you take all the letters that spell 'H-a-r-r-y P-o-t-t-e-r' and jumble them around and mix them up and put them in a blender, they actually end up spelling 'F-r-o-d-o B-a-g-g-i-n-s'.
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May 18th, 2003 03:44 AM |
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Tired-Hiker
El Bastardo
Gender: Male
Location: Sailing the seas of cheese. |
Oh yeah, California has better waves than England. Therefore, California has better surfers than England. Therefore, the surfers in California are more experienced and one could say "smarter" than English surfers. Californians are Americans. So, one could now say Americans are indeed smarter than the English. See.
However, many Californians have roots spawned from England. Therefore, the smart gene came from England. So, one could say that in every Californian is an English surfer trying to escape. What does this all mean? Well I'll tell you.
Remember the part in Harry Potter II when Harry stabs that giant snake in the head with that sword. Remember where Harry got that sword? He pulled it out of a stone. Harry Potter actually copied "The Sword In The Stone."
So, now that I completley make absolutely no sense, please make me stop. I'm having a smart ass moment on a computer and I need to be put down. Thank you if you enjoyed my wasting your time.
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May 18th, 2003 04:24 AM |
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Tired-Hiker
El Bastardo
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Location: Sailing the seas of cheese. |
P.S.
I don't really think Americans are Smarter than the English (or vise versa.) I don't even know why I went there. But I do know this. I like Harry Potter and I like Lord Of The Rings. They both derive from the same good vs. evil stories that have existed for centuries. In fact, they both utilize the 'hero myth' which spawned the 'hero paradigm.' Just about every story dealing with a quest, a vision, a sword, or a ring, came from these roots. I once read somewhere that there are only twelve ways a story can go. For example, tragedies, comedies, horror flicks, muppet movies, they all have to end some way, and there's only twelve ways. They all copied the Illiad. And the Illiad copied the Rosetta Stone.
What I like about both movies is that you can start each movie anywhere, be it the beginning, the middle, toward the end, and it will envelope your senses with the music, the visuals, the sound effects, the twists the turns, the Ents, the Mandrakes! It's all good. Every story has been done, it's just how you do it that makes it worth while.
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May 18th, 2003 04:44 AM |
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Tired-Hiker
El Bastardo
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Location: Sailing the seas of cheese. |
Okay, enough of me.
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May 18th, 2003 04:44 AM |
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