Anyone have a copy of the clip? Or better yet, the script?
When the Chitauri were laying down on the Hulk however, it looked like he was getting into trouble. Which I thought was kind of the point, with them showing individual avengers each on the ropes. I'm not saying he was beaten or dying or anything just to be clear.
I admit Thor is faster and more skilled. However, as we saw in the fight, Thor's attacks seemed to be less effective than Hulk's attacks. You can claim this was because Thor was holding back, which I will ignore because it's baseless conjecture.
- You know he isn't using his full power. We see its effects in both Thor films, in the finale, and against Iron Man/Captain America.
- You know he wasn't trying to WTFmurder Banner, instead pleading with him and attempting to subdue him.
- The arena and the danger of hurting others eliminated his ability to truly use his speed, mobility, and the large majority of his elemental attacks.
All of the above is self-evident; how is Thor not holding back? Because you don't want to believe that? Whatever.
I posted scans showing that MCU recognizes Thor in Avengers is weakened. Film evidence shows that he is not using his full moveset or full power on Banner. And in T:TDW, we see him unleash even more power against Kurse and Malekith, further highlighting what we already know; that Thor in the Avengers is totally taking it easy.
Given the damage Thor is shown dealing out with lightning and charged hammer shots, how in the world can ff218 justify stating that using them would only get Thor an extra 1 win?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Thor hurt Hulk with his Mjolnir uppercut almost as much as Hulk's punch did Thor. The difference is that Thor can still amp his shots whereas Hulk will almost always punch more or less the same. Another difference is that Hulk was able to get a clean shot like that because Thor was talking, whereas when Thor smashed Hulk it was while Hulk was charging.
Except Thor, who at no point was troubled by the Chitauri.
The ROAR gets LOUDER and CLOSER. Thor focuses. His hand strains toward mid-air. His eyes tight in concentration. The HULK runs right at him. At the last second, MJOLNIR flies into his hand and Thor UPPERCUTS HULK, WHO CRASHES INTO A FIGHTER JET.
HULK stands up, shaking his head like ‘what the **** just happened.’
Shown above: Hulk not being injured, apparently.
Anyway, Thor was weakened, and not trying to kill Hulk. Aka Thor was not bringing his full power to bear.
Yeah. Thor could just conjure up a whirlwind and fly Hulk up in the air, as high up as the hellicarrier was.... then drop Hulk. Should be enough to knock him out.
Since getting Firefly218 to admit Thor w/o lightning wins 4/10 is roughly equal to getting an unbiased person to admit Thor wins 8-9/10, I guess there is nothing left to debate.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
OK. Maybe it isn't baseless conjecture, but it is conjecture nonetheless. I agree that Thor was most likely holding back, but there is no conclusive evidence to prove that as fact. Just like there's no conclusive evidence for me to say Hulk will fight harder and stronger believing Thor murdered Betty Ross.
Judging only based on the fight, without assuming anything, it's clear Hulk had the edge.
con·jec·tured, con·jec·tur·ing.
to conclude or suppose from grounds or evidence insufficient to ensure reliability.
There is plenty of evidence to back up the claim that Thor was holding back...meanwhile there is zero evidence that the Hulk was holding back or that he can get any angrier than he was while fighting Thor.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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Mar 7th, 2014 03:07 AM
No. In TIH, Hulk landed a fall from the stratosphere. Now you're just lowballing
