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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Thor can't use lightning in this fight, so that doesn't matter.
Once again, it's about the matchup. Against opponents like Hulk and Kurse, Thor doesn't do well.
That still leaves charged hammer shots, tornadoes, flying hammer shots etc etc etc.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:12 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor did perfectly well against Hulk, considering he was holding back.
Kurse isn't just a brick. He's actually a skilled fighter.
Can you prove he was holding back?
No you can't. The same way I can't prove Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes and Hulk got one good shot in (which he did via cheapshot anyway). Marvel was careful to keep that fight pretty even.
Hulk had two other "good shots" at the end as well. When he jumped nailing Thor against the ceiling which left Thor on the floor for several seconds and when he tossed him against the wall.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Can you prove he was holding back?
No you can't. The same way I can't prove Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier
You means besides him trying to talk the Hulk down, not using lightning, charged hammer shots, weather control etc?
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:15 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Silent Master
That still leaves charged hammer shots, tornadoes, flying hammer shots etc etc etc.
What's the difference between charged hammer shot and lightning strike?
Also, Thor's strongest hammer hit did little more than disorient Hulk. Hulk had no tissue damage.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:15 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Can you prove he was holding back?
No you can't. The same way I can't prove Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier
I said this before and I'll say it again. Thor trying to reason with Hulk is not something he would do if he were going all out.
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Mar 2nd, 2014 08:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
What's the difference between charged hammer shot and lightning strike?
Also, Thor's strongest hammer hit did little more than disorient Hulk. Hulk had no tissue damage.
Lol at just disorient. It hurt Hulk. Hurt Hulk as much as Hulk's suckerpunch hurt Thor.
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Mar 2nd, 2014 08:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ares834
Hulk had two other "good shots" at the end as well. When he jumped nailing Thor against the ceiling which left Thor on the floor for several seconds and when he tossed him against the wall.
Hulk crashing them against the ceiling is like Thor tackling them through the wall.
Hulk slamming Thor on the ground and against the wall is like Thor kneeing Hulk in the face and turning him 360 with a right cross.
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Mar 2nd, 2014 08:18 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
What's the difference between charged hammer shot and lightning strike?
Also, Thor's strongest hammer hit did little more than disorient Hulk. Hulk had no tissue damage.
Lighting strike is a ranged attack, charged hammer is melee.
Prove that Thor used his strongest hammer strike.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Silent Master
You means besides him trying to talk the Hulk down, not using lightning, charged hammer shots, weather control etc?
Once again, Thor could have been abstaining from lightning, weather control etc because he's dumb, or just didn't feel like it. The audience doesn't know for a fact, they can only assume.
Thor talking Hulk down has no absolute correlation to whether or not he's holding back. All we can do is take feats at face value.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:20 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol at just disorient. It hurt Hulk. Hurt Hulk as much as Hulk's suckerpunch hurt Thor.
When did Hulk sucker punch Thor?
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Mar 2nd, 2014 08:20 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol at just disorient. It hurt Hulk. Hurt Hulk as much as Hulk's suckerpunch hurt Thor.
Thor had visible tissue damage. Hulk did not
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:21 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
When did Hulk sucker punch Thor?
When Thor was trying to talk him down, you really need to watch the movie.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:21 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Silent Master
Lighting strike is a ranged attack, charged hammer is melee.
Prove that Thor used his strongest hammer strike.
Prove that Hulk used his strongest suckerpunch.
This argument can go in circles. The point is, Thor was visibly injured, whereas Hulk was not
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Once again, Thor could have been abstaining from lightning, weather control etc because he's dumb, or just didn't feel like it. The audience doesn't know for a fact, they can only assume.
Thor talking Hulk down has no absolute correlation to whether or not he's holding back. All we can do is take feats at face value.
All Thor's other fights prove that he's smart enough to use his other abilities, at this point you're just trolling.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:23 PM
Silent Master
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Prove that Hulk used his strongest suckerpunch.
This argument can go in circles. The point is, Thor was visibly injured, whereas Hulk was not
You're the one that claimed Thor used his strongest attack, that means the burden is on you.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Silent Master
When Thor was trying to talk him down, you really need to watch the movie.
So talking mean sucker shot...what about screaming? Is that included?
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Mar 2nd, 2014 08:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Thor had visible tissue damage. Hulk did not
Visible tissue damage? Show me him having visible tissue damage.
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Mar 2nd, 2014 08:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Silent Master
All Thor's other fights prove that he's smart enough to use his other abilities, at this point you're just trolling.
That still leaves open the possibility that he just didn't want to.
The point is, you saying Thor was holding back is an assumption.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:26 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
So talking mean sucker shot...what about screaming? Is that included?
Stop being stupid.
Mar 2nd, 2014 08:26 PM
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